Chat message

In context

A single line often inverts meaning once you see what it answers, so neighbouring messages are always shown.

1. 2021-05-12 23:22 Edward C. Holmes open
   I would add: 1. Long evolutionary gap to Yunnan bats. 2. Yunnan bats look close because they mainly sampled Yunnan bats. 3. Two lineages in Wuhan at different markets. 4. No reason not a publish a closer virus before the pandemic.
2. 2021-05-12 23:23 Andrew Rambaut open
   I love this one: > --Closest known (not that close) viral relatives in nature are ~1000 miles from Wuhan So the known relatives are not the close relatives and thus the fact they are far away is expected.
3. 2021-05-12 23:24 Kristian G. Andersen open
   Andrew you nailed that one way back - Ebola virus in West Africa...
4. 2021-05-12 23:24 Andrew Rambaut open
   > To call this scenario a "conspiracy theory" is inappropriate and unfair to everyone involved.
5. 2021-05-12 23:25 Edward C. Holmes
   Send them this to explain the point: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MMiKyfd6hA0
6. 2021-05-12 23:26 Andrew Rambaut open
   > I would never hang my hat on any of it. But I would send a letter to Science
7. 2021-05-12 23:30 Edward C. Holmes open
   False equivalence is that the gamey tasting menu is full of bloody viruses (although we can't use this). Some ofthese animals were sick and sold.
8. 2021-05-12 23:30 Kristian G. Andersen open
   Andrew - any chance you can please write a point about the likelihood? Basically what you already have but in a few sentences?
9. 2021-05-12 23:30 Kristian G. Andersen open
   > False equivalence is that the gamey tasting menu is full of bloody viruses (although we can't use this). Some ofthese animals were sick and sold.I honestly don't understand we aren't all already dead - it's a fucking miracle.

Full conversation →