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> To call this scenario a "conspiracy theory" is inappropriate and unfair to everyone involved.

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2021-05-12 23:22 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, but the prior doesn't work with them because, Wuhan.
2021-05-12 23:22 Edward C. Holmes open

I would add: 1. Long evolutionary gap to Yunnan bats. 2. Yunnan bats look close because they mainly sampled Yunnan bats. 3. Two lineages in Wuhan at different markets. 4. No reason not a publish a closer virus before the pandemic.
2021-05-12 23:23 Andrew Rambaut open

I love this one: > --Closest known (not that close) viral relatives in nature are ~1000 miles from Wuhan So the known relatives are not the close relatives and thus the fact they are far away is expected.
2021-05-12 23:24 Kristian G. Andersen open

Andrew you nailed that one way back - Ebola virus in West Africa...
2021-05-12 23:24 Andrew Rambaut

> To call this scenario a "conspiracy theory" is inappropriate and unfair to everyone involved.
2021-05-12 23:25 Edward C. Holmes open

Send them this to explain the point: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MMiKyfd6hA0
2021-05-12 23:26 Andrew Rambaut open

> I would never hang my hat on any of it. But I would send a letter to Science
2021-05-12 23:30 Edward C. Holmes open

False equivalence is that the gamey tasting menu is full of bloody viruses (although we can't use this). Some ofthese animals were sick and sold.
2021-05-12 23:30 Kristian G. Andersen open

Andrew - any chance you can please write a point about the likelihood? Basically what you already have but in a few sentences?