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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.577 [SLACK_000791] · slack_pm:msg:06022

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Date
2021-03-08 15:08
Type
chat message · slack
mentioned
Andrew Rambaut
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry

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@Andrew Rambaut Hammer hits nail!

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  1. 2021-03-08 15:06 Andrew Rambaut open
    But that means these ideas about WIV sampling viruses from the wild and one of the accidentally escapes might bewrong?
  2. 2021-03-08 15:07 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I think most of those people underestimate how incredibly hard it is to grow stuff from such samples, yes.
  3. 2021-03-08 15:07 Robert F. Garry open
    Screening species with serology though I think is the way to go - that is why Lin-Fa's ACE2BOB makes sense - find the species that have antibodies then trap the hell out of them until you get lucky and hit one at peak viremia/RNA.
  4. 2021-03-08 15:07 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I think they assume - 10,000 samples = 10,000 chances for SC2 to hop out of a tube. Nope.
  5. 2021-03-08 15:08 Robert F. Garry
    @Andrew Rambaut Hammer hits nail!
  6. 2021-03-08 15:09 Kristian G. Andersen open
    There's virtually _zero_ chance a virus could leak out of a tube - if they culture to high titers, sure - but again, in most circumstances that's not going to be possible because it's so hard to grow anything out of a primary sample.
  7. 2021-03-08 15:11 Robert F. Garry open
    That and they should be doing it with at least an N95 and better yet a PAPR. Damn sure have my ppl in a PAPR/class 2 hood if they are trying to grow virus in large amts.
  8. 2021-03-08 15:12 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yes, Bob, but these are Chinese scientists - they're clueless, you know.
  9. 2021-03-08 15:12 Kristian G. Andersen open
    :face_with_rolling_eyes:

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