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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.577 [SLACK_000791] · slack_pm:msg:06023

Date: 2021-03-08 15:09
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen

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There's virtually _zero_ chance a virus could leak out of a tube - if they culture to high titers, sure - but again, in most circumstances that's not going to be possible because it's so hard to grow anything out of a primary sample.

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2021-03-08 15:07 Kristian G. Andersen open

I think most of those people underestimate how incredibly hard it is to grow stuff from such samples, yes.
2021-03-08 15:07 Robert F. Garry open

Screening species with serology though I think is the way to go - that is why Lin-Fa's ACE2BOB makes sense - find the species that have antibodies then trap the hell out of them until you get lucky and hit one at peak viremia/RNA.
2021-03-08 15:07 Kristian G. Andersen open

I think they assume - 10,000 samples = 10,000 chances for SC2 to hop out of a tube. Nope.
2021-03-08 15:08 Robert F. Garry open

@Andrew Rambaut Hammer hits nail!
2021-03-08 15:09 Kristian G. Andersen

There's virtually _zero_ chance a virus could leak out of a tube - if they culture to high titers, sure - but again, in most circumstances that's not going to be possible because it's so hard to grow anything out of a primary sample.
2021-03-08 15:11 Robert F. Garry open

That and they should be doing it with at least an N95 and better yet a PAPR. Damn sure have my ppl in a PAPR/class 2 hood if they are trying to grow virus in large amts.
2021-03-08 15:12 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yes, Bob, but these are Chinese scientists - they're clueless, you know.
2021-03-08 15:12 Kristian G. Andersen open

:face_with_rolling_eyes:
2021-03-08 15:13 Robert F. Garry open

Indeed but they're miles ahead of The Parisites(R) , who are so out of their depth it is really NOT at all funny.

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