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[Andrew Rambaut]
Yes - two independent travellers from Mozambique (Italy and Reunion)
[2021-11-30 14:25:38]
[Andrew Rambaut]
All within the Gauteng/Botswana diversity
[2021-11-30 14:35:26]
[Kristian Andersen]
Do we understand what's going on here? Moritz mentioned that places like Gauteng had ~80% attack rates in
previous waves, so I'm almost certain immunity is massively eroded. Question is - do we have increased
transmission of Omicron to add to that? My gut tells me yes - simply given the speed here.
[2021-11-30 15:00:31]
[Andrew Rambaut]
I would be surprised if inherent transmissibility is higher than delta. My gut tells me this is due to massive number of
new susceptibles and complete lack of any NPIs.
[2021-11-30 15:10:35]
[Kristian Andersen]
I agree on the massive number of new susceptibles, but some of those mutations in the FCS and NTD + outside the
spike - not sure those are only involved in immune escape.
[2021-11-30 15:26:54]
[Andrew Rambaut]
NSP6del + Nelly + Pooh is Alpha like .
[2021-12-01 14:09:51]
[Kristian Andersen]
@Andrew Rambaut - thoughts? https://twitter.com/sebduchene/status/1466161635056254983?s=20. Wildly
different estimates, but it's from Sebastian...
[2021-12-01 14:21:16]
[Andrew Rambaut]
He probably has the bullshit Italian genomes in there. And the South African ones called for reference
[2021-12-01 14:36:24]
[Eddie Holmes]
Sorry, I asked the same question in the other channel before spotting this. I assumed there was an error
somewhere.
[2021-12-01 14:40:00]
[Andrew Rambaut]
Just ran BEAST again and now I am getting lower rates and older TMRCA:
2021-10-07 (2021-09-26, 2021-10-18)
[2021-12-01 14:40:34]
[Andrew Rambaut]
Doubling time: 6.7 days (4.7-11.7)
[2021-12-01 14:40:56]
[Andrew Rambaut]
R: 1.62 (1.34, 1.92)
[2021-12-01 14:41:24]
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