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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.884 [SLACK_001098] · slack_pm:msg:09165

Date: 2021-05-27 14:47
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration

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... and one additional thing to that point that Joel brought up earlier today - if WIV really had three people who endedup in the hospital with COVID, a TON of people would have had to have gotten infected before that wouldstatistically be plausible given hospitalization rates.

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2021-05-27 14:30 Robert F. Garry open

And to be clear, the Bloomshit letter is speculating that Shi et al are involved in a massive conspiracy and cover-up.
2021-05-27 14:39 Kristian G. Andersen open

That's hilarious. From a journal called "Science".
2021-05-27 14:43 Edward C. Holmes open

And some cover-up it would need to be. If they had 3 serious cases in the 2nd week of Nov then there would be 10sof less serious cases dating back into October. Lots is the must have known and obviously Shi. That's a lot of peopleto keep quiet, inc. all those their lab results are negative.
2021-05-27 14:46 Robert F. Garry open

After the big can of whoopass Amy M unloaded on them last night I think that the Science Editors are likely sitting inthe corner licking their wounds.
2021-05-27 14:47 Kristian G. Andersen

... and one additional thing to that point that Joel brought up earlier today - if WIV really had three people who endedup in the hospital with COVID, a TON of people would have had to have gotten infected before that wouldstatistically be plausible given hospitalization rates.
2021-05-27 14:49 Edward C. Holmes open

Yes, that's my point as well.
2021-05-27 14:50 Kristian G. Andersen open

Well, of course it is - only read the first part :wink:
2021-05-27 14:52 Edward C. Holmes open

Which also means that they started the cover-up long before this outbreak became serious
2021-05-27 15:02 Edward C. Holmes open

So, big outbreak at WIV but it's all kept quiet in November. And this cover-up would be going on for even longer ifthey knew back in September and so took their database offline.

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