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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.884 [SLACK_001098] · slack_pm:msg:09162

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Date
2021-05-27 14:39
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen

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That's hilarious. From a journal called "Science".

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  1. 2021-05-27 14:24 Andrew Rambaut open
    ```The goal of Science's Insights section is to be the best place for scientists to talk to each other about science. So,given the importance of this issue and the breadth of expertise and outstanding qualifications of the authors, it wasan easy decision to publish the Letter. The authors acknowledged that demanding transparency from China--whileacknowledging the important role of Chinese researchers in tackling the virus--is a nuanced and important task given the discouraging rise of anti-Asian sentiment over the past 18 months.```
  2. 2021-05-27 14:24 Robert F. Garry open
    This actually makes no sense - if both arguments are "speculative," then why the hell did they publish the Bloomshit, which they just called speculative?
  3. 2021-05-27 14:26 Robert F. Garry open
    Yeah - good point Andrew.
  4. 2021-05-27 14:30 Robert F. Garry open
    And to be clear, the Bloomshit letter is speculating that Shi et al are involved in a massive conspiracy and cover-up.
  5. 2021-05-27 14:39 Kristian G. Andersen
    That's hilarious. From a journal called "Science".
  6. 2021-05-27 14:43 Edward C. Holmes open
    And some cover-up it would need to be. If they had 3 serious cases in the 2nd week of Nov then there would be 10sof less serious cases dating back into October. Lots is the must have known and obviously Shi. That's a lot of peopleto keep quiet, inc. all those their lab results are negative.
  7. 2021-05-27 14:46 Robert F. Garry open
    After the big can of whoopass Amy M unloaded on them last night I think that the Science Editors are likely sitting inthe corner licking their wounds.
  8. 2021-05-27 14:47 Kristian G. Andersen open
    ... and one additional thing to that point that Joel brought up earlier today - if WIV really had three people who endedup in the hospital with COVID, a TON of people would have had to have gotten infected before that wouldstatistically be plausible given hospitalization rates.
  9. 2021-05-27 14:49 Edward C. Holmes open
    Yes, that's my point as well.

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