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Slack / Private Message Drop, pp.884-885 [SLACK_001098] · slack_pm:msg:09169

Page text: p.884, p.885 · original PDF

Date
2021-05-27 15:02
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes
Topics
Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration

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So, big outbreak at WIV but it's all kept quiet in November. And this cover-up would be going on for even longer ifthey knew back in September and so took their database offline.

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  1. 2021-05-27 14:47 Kristian G. Andersen open
    ... and one additional thing to that point that Joel brought up earlier today - if WIV really had three people who endedup in the hospital with COVID, a TON of people would have had to have gotten infected before that wouldstatistically be plausible given hospitalization rates.
  2. 2021-05-27 14:49 Edward C. Holmes open
    Yes, that's my point as well.
  3. 2021-05-27 14:50 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Well, of course it is - only read the first part :wink:
  4. 2021-05-27 14:52 Edward C. Holmes open
    Which also means that they started the cover-up long before this outbreak became serious
  5. 2021-05-27 15:02 Edward C. Holmes
    So, big outbreak at WIV but it's all kept quiet in November. And this cover-up would be going on for even longer ifthey knew back in September and so took their database offline.
  6. 2021-05-27 15:02 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yup, that's what happened.
  7. 2021-05-27 15:03 Robert F. Garry open
    So what we have is a failed CDC Director speculating in an area of virology he does not understand, A CNN scienceanchor tagging on, two failed exNYTimes authors seeking relevance or just looking for an income stream with abook, a failed Intelligence officer David Asher (who now Batman to Steve Quay's Robin_ who own deputy secretary pulled the plug on the investigation (apparently unbenown to the WSJ, but clear even to Fox), and a couple of oldNobelists also proving they are long past their prime (redeem yourself DB). Mix this with a Republican toxic stew andan few ill-considered Fauci quote. Mix in Angie's opportunists, dilettantes, racist/misogynist assholes, and trolls and shit decisions at the journal call "science" and this is where we're at.
  8. 2021-05-27 15:35 Robert F. Garry open
    At this moment probably about as good as it gets from the NYT - it could be worse. [shared file(s): Scientists Don't Want to Ignore the Wuhan 'Lab Leak' Theory, Despite No New Evidence - The New York Times.pdf]
  9. 2021-05-27 15:56 Edward C. Holmes open
    Not great though. What do you make of this? Surely nobody is reading Yan's report? [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-28 at 8.54.53 am.png]

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