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Slack / Private Message Drop, pp.712-713 [SLACK_000926] · slack_pm:msg:07477

Date: 2021-04-17 06:51
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Vaccines Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

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It was Tom Curtis of The Rolling Stone that birthed the notion that HIV was a "lab leak." The last paragraph is prophetic - blame the virologists. "Like Salk and Sabin, Koprowski had the best intentions: He wanted to eradicate adebilitating and deadly scourge. But with what we know now, it's clear there was a certain hubris involved in therough-and-ready campaigns to conquer polio. There is evidence that all three pioneers used vaccines inadvertentlycontaminated with viruses from a species dangerously close to our own. If the Congo vaccine turns out not to be the way AIDS got started in people, it will be because medicine was lucky, not because it was infallible." [shared file(s):Curtis-OriginOfAIDS-RollingStone.pdf]

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It was Tom Curtis of The Rolling Stone that birthed the notion that HIV was a "lab leak." The last paragraph is prophetic - blame the virologists.	quoted / not their view	quoted_external sentence carries quotation marks	asserts
There is evidence that all three pioneers used vaccines inadvertentlycontaminated with viruses from a species dangerously close to our own.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
If the Congo vaccine turns out not to be the way AIDS got started in people, it will be because medicine was lucky, not because it was infallible." [shared file(s):Curtis-OriginOfAIDS-RollingStone.pdf]	quoted / not their view	hypothetical conditional framing	asserts

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It was Tom Curtis of The Rolling Stone that birthed the notion that HIV was a "lab leak." The last paragraph is prophetic - blame the virologists.

quoted / not their view

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asserts

There is evidence that all three pioneers used vaccines inadvertentlycontaminated with viruses from a species dangerously close to our own.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

If the Congo vaccine turns out not to be the way AIDS got started in people, it will be because medicine was lucky, not because it was infallible." [shared file(s):Curtis-OriginOfAIDS-RollingStone.pdf]

quoted / not their view

hypothetical conditional framing

asserts

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2021-04-17 06:39 Robert F. Garry open

Having "conquered" the "origin" of SC2 DRASTIC turns its "arsenal" on another possible "lab leak." Seemingly it's timely to relitigate the CHAT-OPV hypothesis. If there's just a 1% chance HIV is a "lab leak" shouldn't we shut down all the virologists? [shared file(s): image.png]
2021-04-17 06:51 Robert F. Garry

It was Tom Curtis of The Rolling Stone that birthed the notion that HIV was a "lab leak." The last paragraph is prophetic - blame the virologists. "Like Salk and Sabin, Koprowski had the best intentions: He wanted to eradicate adebilitating and deadly scourge. But with what we know now, it's clear there was a certain hubris involved in therough-and-ready campaigns to conquer polio. There is evidence that all three pioneers used vaccines inadvertentlycontaminated with viruses from a species dangerously close to our own. If the Congo vaccine turns out not to be the way AIDS got started in people, it will be because medicine was lucky, not because it was infallible." [shared file(s):Curtis-OriginOfAIDS-RollingStone.pdf]
2021-04-17 06:55 Robert F. Garry open

Hmmm - "A STARTLING NEW THEORY ATTEMPTS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION 'WAS IT AN ACT OF GOD OR AN ACT OF MAN?"
2021-04-17 07:22 Robert F. Garry open

Last paragraph of Alina's Slate Podcast:"We have all of these virus hunting programs spread everywhere, especiallyin developing countries. They're worth hundreds of millions of dollars. And it's not just that many, many groups ofscientists all draw from this money. There's a disincentive for them to advocate for an investigation into origins because it could shift the perception of their work as life-saving, as pandemic-preventing, to one that could actually result in a pandemic and in lives lost."
2021-04-17 08:05 Robert F. Garry open

Spys vs. Scientists - as viewed by Russian media (TLDR: bottom line: Daszak has CoI) https://www.rt.com/op-ed/521314-us-spies-covid-lab/

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