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way AIDS got started in people, it will be because medicine was lucky, not because it was infallible." [shared file(s): Curtis-OriginOfAIDS-RollingStone.pdf] [2021-04-17 06:55:56] [Robert Garry] Hmmm - "A STARTLING NEW THEORY ATTEMPTS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION 'WAS IT AN ACT OF GOD OR AN ACT OF MAN?" [2021-04-17 07:22:15] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-04-17 07:22:15] Last paragraph of Alina's Slate Podcast:"We have all of these virus hunting programs spread everywhere, especially in developing countries. They're worth hundreds of millions of dollars. And it's not just that many, many groups of scientists all draw from this money. There's a disincentive for them to advocate for an investigation into origins because it could shift the perception of their work as life-saving, as pandemic-preventing, to one that could actually result in a pandemic and in lives lost." [2021-04-17 08:05:19] [Robert Garry] Spys vs. Scientists - as viewed by Russian media (TLDR: bottom line: Daszak has CoI) https://www.rt.com/op-ed/521314-us-spies-covid-lab/ [2021-04-17 10:15:59] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-04-17 07:22:15] @Robert Garry Have to admit that the more I read this kind of shit the angrier I get. Seriously, I can't think of many scientists working in BSL-4 and doing fieldwork that are doing this for the money. [2021-04-18 06:53:05] [Robert Garry] More false equivalence. Auf Deutsch [translated here]. Notable for some bad cartoons and an @Kristian Andersen exchange with the Wiz. [shared file(s): Coronavirus_ War es ein Laborunfall_ Das Rantsel um den Ausbruch.pdf] [2021-04-18 07:59:02] [Kristian Andersen] "Daszak and Andersen are both very active on Twitter. [...] As soon as someone makes himself known who brings the laboratory theory into play, he is covered by the two with comments that are mostly somewhere between smug and disparaging." :joy:. I love to think of the Grand Wizard and myself as the Natural Origin Police. This is so dumb. If you look at eDim, however, you'll probably find that he tweets hundreds of times a day, chiming in as the Lab Leak Police - it's unbelievable how much time he waste on Twitter. [2021-04-18 08:00:37] [Kristian Andersen] I love that the main diss on our paper is this: "How is it possible that Sars-CoV-2 can dock onto human cells so perfectly after such a short period of time? Is this actually as amazing as some claim, or is the phenomenon also known from other Sars viruses?". Well, wait until they see that pangolin data and I think we have an answer... [2021-04-18 08:24:17] [Robert Garry] No one is calling for the Parisites, DRASTIC, Asher/Pottinger/Pompeo etc to provide any science, beyond *hey look* there's a coronavirus lab in Wuhan. They got nothing except that, some very selective data cherry-picking and