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Date
2021-03-29 16:23
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen
Topics
Intelligence community assessments

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"Shi told them she was very worried about a lab escape and they did 2 internal audits and found nothing". This bit bothers me - and I mentioned this back when she made a similar comment to SciAm. It clearly shows she found it a likely explanation.

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  1. 2021-03-29 16:06 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yup - she clearly drank the Kool-Aid before the interview. Also, 2 lab leak 'theorists' vs 1 scientist. Fair balance?Nope - should have been 0 vs 3.
  2. 2021-03-29 16:15 Edward C. Holmes open
    Annex D7 is very interesting
  3. 2021-03-29 16:22 Edward C. Holmes open
    Had a long chat with Dominic: (i) he thinks that it could well be raccoon dogs or mink neither of which have been tested and that there was great push back from the Chinese about even investigating this idea. So, these animals have not been tested; (ii) he said that the WIV staff came across as totally open and honest. He said that privately Shi told them she was very worried about a lab escape and they did 2 internal audits and found nothing.
  4. 2021-03-29 16:22 Kristian G. Andersen open
    This? [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-29 at 4.22.14 PM.png]
  5. 2021-03-29 16:23 Kristian G. Andersen
    "Shi told them she was very worried about a lab escape and they did 2 internal audits and found nothing". This bit bothers me - and I mentioned this back when she made a similar comment to SciAm. It clearly shows she found it a likely explanation.
  6. 2021-03-29 16:24 Kristian G. Andersen open
    ... but they again, she _would_ need to consider it a possibility - we did.
  7. 2021-03-29 16:25 Edward C. Holmes open
    As did we Kristian. I think I would be more bothered if she had not considered the possibility. To me, she comes across as honest.
  8. 2021-03-29 16:26 Edward C. Holmes open
    What do you make of that ACE2 stuff? If all their staff are negative then it's game over....unless there's been massive cover-up.
  9. 2021-03-29 16:28 Kristian G. Andersen open
    "her laboratory used recombinant viruses to test whether bat CoVs could use ACE2 to bind but used bat spike protein on *a bat-CoV backbone*, not human SARS" Which backbone?

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