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Date
2021-03-29 16:06
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen
Topics
Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

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Yup - she clearly drank the Kool-Aid before the interview. Also, 2 lab leak 'theorists' vs 1 scientist. Fair balance?Nope - should have been 0 vs 3.

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  1. 2021-03-29 15:59 Kristian G. Andersen open
    It's the same BS machine over and over again. Both of them seemed very convincing on 60 Minutes though - and it's clear it's part of their training in politics (the big giveaway is the smiling every time they make a point - Iremember Matt Stremlau always did the same (from his years in politics...) and it's a very very effective way to builda human connection and get a point across. Peter D. totally outmatched here - with his serious stare and demeanor)
  2. 2021-03-29 16:00 Robert F. Garry open
    I almost felt sorry for PD - but he was not very well prepared for obvious questions and he also likely got heavily edited.
  3. 2021-03-29 16:02 Kristian G. Andersen open
    He got edited for sure, but one thing that stuck with me - he wasn't over-claiming anything. "Yup, we don't know", "Yup, that's to be done". Doesn't work to convince a lay audience, but it's sticking to what we know and what wedon't.
  4. 2021-03-29 16:04 Robert F. Garry open
    Stahl had follow-up for each PD question designed to put him off balance and admit stuff he shouldn't have admitted. Surprising with all the media that he's not better at it. The follow-up to JM and MP were shocked looks onher face and gasps.
  5. 2021-03-29 16:06 Kristian G. Andersen
    Yup - she clearly drank the Kool-Aid before the interview. Also, 2 lab leak 'theorists' vs 1 scientist. Fair balance?Nope - should have been 0 vs 3.
  6. 2021-03-29 16:15 Edward C. Holmes open
    Annex D7 is very interesting
  7. 2021-03-29 16:22 Edward C. Holmes open
    Had a long chat with Dominic: (i) he thinks that it could well be raccoon dogs or mink neither of which have been tested and that there was great push back from the Chinese about even investigating this idea. So, these animals have not been tested; (ii) he said that the WIV staff came across as totally open and honest. He said that privately Shi told them she was very worried about a lab escape and they did 2 internal audits and found nothing.
  8. 2021-03-29 16:22 Kristian G. Andersen open
    This? [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-29 at 4.22.14 PM.png]
  9. 2021-03-29 16:23 Kristian G. Andersen open
    "Shi told them she was very worried about a lab escape and they did 2 internal audits and found nothing". This bit bothers me - and I mentioned this back when she made a similar comment to SciAm. It clearly shows she found it a likely explanation.

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