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1. 2021-03-27 07:56 Robert F. Garry open
   Here's another key point that @Eddie Holmes made a year ago and its stuck with me. The culling of the animals atthe Huanan Market was a perfectly reasonable thing to do - in fact the correct thing to do from a Pubic Healthstandpoint. It was obvious that the market was a focus of spread so going in and disinecting and sacking the animalsto save lives was the right move. Sure -in hindsight - we can lament the fact that it was a missed opportunity todirectly swab infected animals. But, the epi so abundantly clear that they judged that wasn't necessary - shutting down the source of infections - and cases with links to the market showed up over one month - was a prudent move.
2. 2021-03-27 08:03 Robert F. Garry open
   It's just my opinion, but i think we all need to get used to being "jerks" in the media over the next few weeks. [shared file(s): image.png]
3. 2021-03-27 08:04 Robert F. Garry open
   Maybe another "frame-worthy" one?
4. 2021-03-27 08:16 Robert F. Garry open
   Fox>60Minutes? 60 Minutes giving airtime for Metzl to cherry-pick US intelligence. https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-redfield-theory-coronavirus-wuhan-lab-evidence"The U.S. intelligence community continues to believe the virus originated in animals and was not leaked from a lab."
5. 2021-03-27 08:40 Kristian G. Andersen
   To be honest, I would rather not be a jerk, however, when a former CDC director comes out and says "this came from the lab" without providing _any_ evidence whatsoever and perpetuating falsehoods, the gloves are off - just not acceptable. I turned down a bunch of interviews yesterday, but decided on providing comments to CBS because ofthem airing the 60m segment....Totally agree on the importance of pointing out why they decontaminated the market - I have been saying the same since January 2020. Imagine if they hadn't done that... It's just idiotic to say that they did this "to cover up".As for links to other markets in the beginning - @Robert Garry do you have any good articles on that? I'd like to dig alittle deeper into the A/B split taking that into consideration...
6. 2021-03-27 08:49 Robert F. Garry open
   Qun2020:- Worth revisiting in light of new info about lineages A and B. actually has the information that the lab leak group want to dismiss- the early cases were associated with other wet markets not just the Huanan Wet Market. [shared file(s): nejmoa2001316.pdf]
7. 2021-03-27 08:55 Robert F. Garry open
   Here is the key Table about the early cases - All the Huanan Market cases lineage B. The other early ones linked toother wet markets lineage A. @Andrew Rambaut or @Eddie Holmes may have more detailed info. I tried to capture this in my natural origins diagram above. [shared file(s): image.png]
8. 2021-03-27 08:58 Robert F. Garry open
   Of course A "ancestral" to B so any theory on early emergence has to capture the fact that both lineages associated with wet markets early on....
9. 2021-03-27 09:02 Robert F. Garry open
   Other key fact - just to put it here- WA1 - a traveler from Wuhan to Washington State - lineage A had 3 ancestrasnps per @Andrew Rambaut

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