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In case you ahvn't seen: https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/03/26/1021263/bat-covid-coronavirus-cause-origin-wuhan/ [2021-03-27 07:32:40] [Robert Garry] @Kristian Andersen does a great job with CBS of making the point about teh animals at the market that literally blow-up the lab leak theories. "We know that the first epidemiologically linked cluster of cases came from the Huanan market and we know the virus was found in environmental samples -- including animal cages -- at the market," he said. "Any 'lab leak' theory would have to account for that scenario -- which it simply can't, without invoking a major conspiracy and cover up by Chinese scientists and authorities." [2021-03-27 07:34:42] [Robert Garry] Eddie's raccoon dogs plus the CNN video blow-up the assertion by Jacobson, Alina et al that there weren't any mammals at the Huanan Market. [2021-03-27 07:38:36] [Robert Garry] Also good to point out that the fact that some of the earlier cases in Wuhan also had links to other Wet Markets - not a stretch to believe that a batch of infected or cross-infected animals was distributed from South China seeding Huanan and other markets. [2021-03-27 07:40:23] [Robert Garry] Lineage A to B shift also key point of discussion IMO. [2021-03-27 07:56:08] [Robert Garry] Here's another key point that @Eddie Holmes made a year ago and its stuck with me. The culling of the animals at the Huanan Market was a perfectly reasonable thing to do - in fact the correct thing to do from a Pubic Health standpoint. It was obvious that the market was a focus of spread so going in and disinecting and sacking the animals to save lives was the right move. Sure -in hindsight - we can lament the fact that it was a missed opportunity to directly swab infected animals. But, the epi so abundantly clear that they judged that wasn't necessary - shutting down the source of infections - and cases with links to the market showed up over one month - was a prudent move. [2021-03-27 08:03:26] [Robert Garry] It's just my opinion, but i think we all need to get used to being "jerks" in the media over the next few weeks. [shared file(s): image.png] [2021-03-27 08:04:38] [Robert Garry] Maybe another "frame-worthy" one? [2021-03-27 08:16:14] [Robert Garry] Fox>60Minutes? 60 Minutes giving airtime for Metzl to cherry-pick US intelligence. https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-redfield-theory-coronavirus-wuhan-lab-evidence"The U.S. intelligence community continues to believe the virus originated in animals and was not leaked from a lab." [2021-03-27 08:40:51] [Kristian Andersen] To be honest, I would rather not be a jerk, however, when a former CDC director comes out and says "this came from the lab" without providing _any_ evidence whatsoever and perpetuating falsehoods, the gloves are off - just not acceptable. I turned down a bunch of interviews yesterday, but decided on providing comments to CBS because of them airing the 60m segment....