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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.643 [SLACK_000857] · slack_pm:msg:06738

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Date
2021-03-27 07:40
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry

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Lineage A to B shift also key point of discussion IMO.

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  1. 2021-03-27 07:29 Robert F. Garry open
    In case you ahvn't seen: https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/03/26/1021263/bat-covid-coronavirus-cause-origin-wuhan/
  2. 2021-03-27 07:32 Robert F. Garry open
    @Kristian Andersen does a great job with CBS of making the point about teh animals at the market that literally blow-up the lab leak theories. "We know that the first epidemiologically linked cluster of cases came from the Huanan market and we know the virus was found in environmental samples -- including animal cages -- at the market," he said. "Any 'lab leak' theory would have to account for that scenario -- which it simply can't, without invoking a major conspiracy and cover up by Chinese scientists and authorities."
  3. 2021-03-27 07:34 Robert F. Garry open
    Eddie's raccoon dogs plus the CNN video blow-up the assertion by Jacobson, Alina et al that there weren't any mammals at the Huanan Market.
  4. 2021-03-27 07:38 Robert F. Garry open
    Also good to point out that the fact that some of the earlier cases in Wuhan also had links to other Wet Markets - nota stretch to believe that a batch of infected or cross-infected animals was distributed from South China seedingHuanan and other markets.
  5. 2021-03-27 07:40 Robert F. Garry
    Lineage A to B shift also key point of discussion IMO.
  6. 2021-03-27 07:56 Robert F. Garry open
    Here's another key point that @Eddie Holmes made a year ago and its stuck with me. The culling of the animals atthe Huanan Market was a perfectly reasonable thing to do - in fact the correct thing to do from a Pubic Healthstandpoint. It was obvious that the market was a focus of spread so going in and disinecting and sacking the animalsto save lives was the right move. Sure -in hindsight - we can lament the fact that it was a missed opportunity todirectly swab infected animals. But, the epi so abundantly clear that they judged that wasn't necessary - shutting down the source of infections - and cases with links to the market showed up over one month - was a prudent move.
  7. 2021-03-27 08:03 Robert F. Garry open
    It's just my opinion, but i think we all need to get used to being "jerks" in the media over the next few weeks. [shared file(s): image.png]
  8. 2021-03-27 08:04 Robert F. Garry open
    Maybe another "frame-worthy" one?
  9. 2021-03-27 08:16 Robert F. Garry open
    Fox>60Minutes? 60 Minutes giving airtime for Metzl to cherry-pick US intelligence. https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-redfield-theory-coronavirus-wuhan-lab-evidence"The U.S. intelligence community continues to believe the virus originated in animals and was not leaked from a lab."

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