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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.626 [SLACK_000840] · slack_pm:msg:06551

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Date
2021-03-24 04:55
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry

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YES! :100:

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  1. 2021-03-24 04:47 Robert F. Garry open
    So I think that I read that they were able to map the positive environmental sampleson the map that PD is rolling upin the picture. We also heard that at least some of the samples 'mapped" to the live animal stalls, including the grate under Eddie's raccoon dogs.
  2. 2021-03-24 04:53 Andrew Rambaut open
    These are the environmental samples put on GISAID by George? All identical to Wuhan-Hu-1?
  3. 2021-03-24 04:53 Robert F. Garry open
    I agree that being able to culture live virus from the environmental samples means Cts in the mid to low 20s. Viable virus clearly - the complete (near complete) genomes from one pass on Vero cells are on GISAID. maybe the the Chinese database too.
  4. 2021-03-24 04:54 Andrew Rambaut open
    Makes me think that 'lineage A' was a different market (possibly A.1 - i.e., WA1 too).
  5. 2021-03-24 04:55 Robert F. Garry
    YES! :100:
  6. 2021-03-24 04:57 Robert F. Garry open
    The lineage A and B is a big clue - argues against lab leak - otherwise the nefarious Shi and her henchmen seedednot one but 2 markets with two lineages to cover their tracks?
  7. 2021-03-24 05:07 Andrew Rambaut open
    Although they would argue that B in the market evolved from A and thus proves that the market was not the origin
  8. 2021-03-24 05:08 Andrew Rambaut open
    I.e., that WA1 was the actual lab escape
  9. 2021-03-24 05:08 Robert F. Garry open
    This is really SC1 all over again. Hard to find SC1 in the wild but occasionally you find clusters in animals brought tomarket. 95% bat viruses {are there closer ones?] found but SC2 only are found in civets, raccoon dogs andoccasional badgers. These are animals brought to MARKET-what you do you find are clusters of infected animals. Such a SC2 cluster could have seeded the C19 pandemic - traders brought a group of animals to Wuhan - during transport SC2 lineage A spread - may have picked up the lineage B mutations. Lineage A animal sent to nonHuananMarket; Lineae B animal sent to Huanan market.

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