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Not to say they couldn't given enough time but the chronic patient is just a kickstart

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2021-01-23 17:21 Kristian G. Andersen open

Oh.
2021-01-23 17:23 Andrew Rambaut open

I still think all three are chronic cases which have selected for antigenic escape within the host (and for B.1.1.7 atleast increased transmissibility) and then these turned out to be in places where these were very fit.
2021-01-23 17:24 Andrew Rambaut open

Otherwise we would see these combinations coming up a lot.
2021-01-23 17:24 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, that's true - either strong bottleneck (in single host) or very strong selection.
2021-01-23 17:24 Andrew Rambaut

Not to say they couldn't given enough time but the chronic patient is just a kickstart
2021-01-23 17:25 Kristian G. Andersen open

Such an interesting virus evolutionarily speaking - I _do_ wonder what other shit it'll throw after us.
2021-01-23 17:26 Edward C. Holmes open

Tulio and his tools.
2021-01-23 17:27 Kristian G. Andersen open

There was a reason we developed more robust tools...
2021-01-23 17:27 Kristian G. Andersen open

But as always - any one of these tools used in the wrong hands > disaster.