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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.417 [SLACK_000631] · slack_pm:msg:04311

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Date
2021-01-18 11:00
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen

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Exactly - Nelly and her bad friends. "In about 50% of cases there was no recognition of the new virus by preexisting antibodies". Some of the most chilling words of the pandemic. Let's not fool ourselves that T cells will come and save the day - this is fucking serious (and is what a good proportion of us have been warning about for months -many months before even seeing these new variants). This is one sly fucker.

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  1. 2021-01-18 10:39 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Salim Abdool Karim - holy smokes, such a good scientific communicator. Probably the best I have seen during the entire pandemic - I feel like an idiot I didn't know about him before watching this presentation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salim_Abdool_Karim
  2. 2021-01-18 10:42 Robert F. Garry open
    Yes good - I chaired the study section that reviewed the last round of AIDS clinical trials groups grants a few months back. Karim and his wife clearly had the best application of the bunch. Not close.
  3. 2021-01-18 10:50 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I'm impressed.
  4. 2021-01-18 10:55 Robert F. Garry open
    Doug, Nelly, Eek and N417T fit - binds to ace2 like hell - and very immune evasive.
  5. 2021-01-18 11:00 Kristian G. Andersen
    Exactly - Nelly and her bad friends. "In about 50% of cases there was no recognition of the new virus by preexisting antibodies". Some of the most chilling words of the pandemic. Let's not fool ourselves that T cells will come and save the day - this is fucking serious (and is what a good proportion of us have been warning about for months -many months before even seeing these new variants). This is one sly fucker.
  6. 2021-01-18 11:10 Robert F. Garry open
    No way to sugar coat it. My expectations are lowered a lot.
  7. 2021-01-18 11:13 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I was unfortunately already there - I hate the fact that my most pessimistic viewpoints tend to be confirmed by this virus over and over again.
  8. 2021-01-18 11:24 Robert F. Garry open
    I updated the Christmas Card figure on virological to include P.1. I'm also "done" messing with the new post/figure -Karthik offered no changes [but generated some interesting data on indels that'll be useful later on] and Bill Gallaher suggested several additions which I cut down - incorporating a few. Please let me know if there are any edits that are needed. This whole VoC situation is a rapidly changing mess. Probably be a dozen extra facts that should have been added in a few hours...
  9. 2021-01-18 11:28 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I'll take a look now.

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