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1. 2020-11-28 13:53 Andrew Rambaut open
   Utter shit. I like how the top journals have preprint services now so you can see where the authors have submittedto.
2. 2020-11-28 13:53 Andrew Rambaut open
   Based on the call I had with WHO (and I believe this preprint was part of what instigated that) I had started to get together some data to do a rebuttal. But this is way worse than I imagined. It is just waffle.
3. 2020-11-28 13:53 Andrew Rambaut open
   Will be interest to see how hard this is pushed into the media - i.e. is it government sponsored.
4. 2020-11-28 13:53 Edward C. Holmes open
   It may not be government sponsored, but the government will be delighted and I assume it's all over their state media. I'll see what has to say.
5. 2020-11-28 13:53 Andrew Rambaut
   They certainly seem to be offering it to the WHO's 'origins investigation committee'.
6. 2020-11-28 13:53 Edward C. Holmes open
   Mad shit.
7. 2020-11-28 13:53 Robert F. Garry open
   https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/29/a-year-after-wuhan-alarm-china-seeks-to-change-covid-origin-stor y?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
8. 2020-11-28 13:53 Robert F. Garry open
   Guardian article is OK Andrew's right: "Will be interest to see how hard this is pushed into the media - i.e. is itgovernment sponsored." It willalso be interesting to see how Trump supported media (Fox, Newsmax, OAN) handle this.
9. 2020-11-28 13:53 Andrew Rambaut open
   Yes - I saw the Guardian article. It is good that they make it clear that this is a political angle and doesn't come from the science.

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