COVID-19 Records

Private channel session 625

13 messages over —, 2020-11-28 – 2020-11-28.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

  1. 2020-11-28 13:53 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.283
    Yes, very interesting. I never knew there was a call.
  2. 2020-11-28 13:53 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.284
    This is a corker: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3724275
  3. 2020-11-28 13:53 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.284
    Utter shit. I like how the top journals have preprint services now so you can see where the authors have submittedto.
  4. 2020-11-28 13:53 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.284
    Based on the call I had with WHO (and I believe this preprint was part of what instigated that) I had started to get together some data to do a rebuttal. But this is way worse than I imagined. It is just waffle.
  5. 2020-11-28 13:53 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.284
    Will be interest to see how hard this is pushed into the media - i.e. is it government sponsored.
  6. 2020-11-28 13:53 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.284
    It may not be government sponsored, but the government will be delighted and I assume it's all over their state media. I'll see what has to say.
  7. 2020-11-28 13:53 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.284
    They certainly seem to be offering it to the WHO's 'origins investigation committee'.
  8. 2020-11-28 13:53 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.284
    Mad shit.
  9. 2020-11-28 13:53 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.284
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/29/a-year-after-wuhan-alarm-china-seeks-to-change-covid-origin-stor y?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
  10. 2020-11-28 13:53 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.284
    Guardian article is OK Andrew's right: "Will be interest to see how hard this is pushed into the media - i.e. is itgovernment sponsored." It willalso be interesting to see how Trump supported media (Fox, Newsmax, OAN) handle this.
  11. 2020-11-28 13:53 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.284
    Yes - I saw the Guardian article. It is good that they make it clear that this is a political angle and doesn't come from the science.
  12. 2020-11-28 13:53 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.284
    Agree - The whole notion of precirculation is of course something we offered up in PO1 - who knew that would be subverted to Italy and India [or maybe other countries beginning in I]. Perhaps another paragraph or two for PO2?
  13. 2020-11-28 13:53 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.285
    Is the article still up? Eddie's link doesn't work for me...