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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.261 [SLACK_000475] · slack_pm:msg:02722

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Date
2020-11-17 09:15
Type
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recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes
speaker
Andrew Rambaut

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It appears sufficient times in mink to mean it must be selected for but possibly quite weakly. And possibly as a resultof the high density.

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  1. 2020-11-17 09:09 Andrew Rambaut open
    The other thing that virologists struggle with is that better receptor binding does not equal fitter viruses.
  2. 2020-11-17 09:13 Andrew Rambaut open
    But even with the mink, there are lots of lineages in Marion's trees that don't have Y453F.
  3. 2020-11-17 09:13 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yup, I have been hearing you saying this for years - for Ebola too. For SARS we actually got to see some of those mutations because we captured the intermediate host - would be very interesting to see for SARS2 as well, but the mink data is definitely interesting in this regard.
  4. 2020-11-17 09:14 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, I'm not quite sure what Y453F is about - might just be marginally beneficial.
  5. 2020-11-17 09:15 Andrew Rambaut
    It appears sufficient times in mink to mean it must be selected for but possibly quite weakly. And possibly as a resultof the high density.
  6. 2020-11-17 09:16 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yup - plausibly this one becomes fixed when big populations get hit. A lot of diversity in the size of the various farms- especially in Denmark (not sure about NL - but I think they have more 'mega' farms).
  7. 2020-11-17 09:17 Andrew Rambaut open
    Here is a report I wrote for the WHO. To me the most interesting thing is the spike deletion at 69/70 that appears after Y453F and also appears after N469K in humans [shared file(s): Mink-associated_mutations_in_humans.pdf]
  8. 2020-11-17 09:18 Andrew Rambaut open
    Note also the Utah human - also mink related, also 453F (slightly confidentially).
  9. 2020-11-17 09:19 Robert F. Garry open
    One thing to be a data parasite (which implies some relationship to the host) and a data thug/thief.

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