COVID-19 Records

Chat message

Slack / Private Message Drop, p.85 [SLACK_000299] · slack_pm:msg:00863

Page text: p.85 · original PDF

Date
2020-06-18 17:27
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen

Recipients on this medium are inferred from channel membership, not per-message addressing.

This is pretty interesting... [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-06-18 at 5.27.34 PM.png]

In context

A single line often inverts meaning once you see what it answers, so neighbouring messages are always shown.

  1. 2020-06-18 16:36 Edward C. Holmes open
    Had a quick look...if Alina is suggesting that the pangolin RBD came from humans she's totally mad (look at the synonymous diversity). 100% clear that that RBD is out there in nature. Not sure what hosts, but definitely in nature.
  2. 2020-06-18 16:42 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, I'm not sure what she's suggesting... Either from human or somebody invented the sequence. Hasn't that sequence been seen from multiple animals by multiple labs?
  3. 2020-06-18 16:48 Edward C. Holmes open
    Yes, it has. The two pangolin papers in Nature (different groups) both show the same RBD in the animals from Guangdong.
  4. 2020-06-18 16:58 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Thought so...
  5. 2020-06-18 17:27 Kristian G. Andersen
    This is pretty interesting... [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-06-18 at 5.27.34 PM.png]
  6. 2020-06-18 17:32 Edward C. Holmes open
    But the pangolin sequence is only 'highly identical' at the amino acid level. Not synonymous sites...falls in the expected place at those sites.
  7. 2020-06-18 17:34 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, agreed - but if what she's saying is actually true, then that's definitely strange - that is *not* how the authors describe their data and samples
  8. 2020-06-18 17:34 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I'll get the manuscript from her
  9. 2020-06-18 17:37 Edward C. Holmes open
    Let me see what I can do on this. I'm working with both groups.

Full conversation →