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[2020-06-18 16:36:46]
[Eddie Holmes]
Had a quick look...if Alina is suggesting that the pangolin RBD came from humans she's totally mad (look at the
synonymous diversity). 100% clear that that RBD is out there in nature. Not sure what hosts, but definitely in nature.
[2020-06-18 16:42:14]
[Kristian Andersen]
Yeah, I'm not sure what she's suggesting... Either from human or somebody invented the sequence. Hasn't that
sequence been seen from multiple animals by multiple labs?
[2020-06-18 16:48:58]
[Eddie Holmes]
Yes, it has. The two pangolin papers in Nature (different groups) both show the same RBD in the animals from
Guangdong.
[2020-06-18 16:58:19]
[Kristian Andersen]
Thought so...
[2020-06-18 17:27:54]
[Kristian Andersen]
This is pretty interesting... [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-06-18 at 5.27.34 PM.png]
[2020-06-18 17:32:09]
[Eddie Holmes]
But the pangolin sequence is only 'highly identical' at the amino acid level. Not synonymous sites...falls in the
expected place at those sites.
[2020-06-18 17:34:36]
[Kristian Andersen]
Yeah, agreed - but if what she's saying is actually true, then that's definitely strange - that is *not* how the authors
describe their data and samples
[2020-06-18 17:34:56]
[Kristian Andersen]
I'll get the manuscript from her
[2020-06-18 17:37:10]
[Eddie Holmes]
Let me see what I can do on this. I'm working with both groups.
[2020-06-18 17:41:09]
[Eddie Holmes]
Still makes no sense because the Liu et al. paper come out before the pandemic.
[2020-06-18 17:41:32]
[Kristian Andersen]
"Liu et al. paper come out before the pandemic" > Yup.
[2020-06-18 17:42:11]
[Eddie Holmes]
Published online October 24th 2019 if I remember.
[2020-06-18 17:43:29]
[Kristian Andersen]
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