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Date
2020-06-11 15:16
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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We're going round in circles...that's the Follis paper...the first paper we discussed and I sent you in early Feb.

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  1. 2020-06-11 15:13 Kristian G. Andersen open
    There's a paper where they put it into a bat virus and shows it has much broader host range - I believe from Baric's group. I'll find it.
  2. 2020-06-11 15:15 Edward C. Holmes open
    At S1/S2?
  3. 2020-06-11 15:15 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yup - the paper above is _exactly_ where it was inserted in SARS2 - that's the part I missed previously (I have been aware of these papers all the time).
  4. 2020-06-11 15:16 Kristian G. Andersen open
    (BUT, the inserted site _is not_ the same as in the paper - that would have been a dead giveaway)
  5. 2020-06-11 15:16 Edward C. Holmes
    We're going round in circles...that's the Follis paper...the first paper we discussed and I sent you in early Feb.
  6. 2020-06-11 15:18 Edward C. Holmes open
    My take is that furin cleavage sites are *everywhere* in natural viruses e.g. MERS. I'm revising a paper on avianavulaviruses and they have one. To me, there is a strong natural prior.
  7. 2020-06-11 15:18 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yes - I have been aware of the Follis paper all along - I was _not_ aware that their insertion was exactly where it is inSARS2
  8. 2020-06-11 15:20 Edward C. Holmes open
    Also, the Zhou et al. paper never call it a furin cleavage site insertion and I think the alignment in that paper is the optimal one. If so, it is not a simple 'shift' but rather a complex set of indel events.
  9. 2020-06-11 15:20 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Here's the paper from Baric - not the insertion, but showing that cleavage broadens host range (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31801868/) - which is what furin does. This is also not a new paper - I have been aware of this all along as well, so not a smoking gun, but there are several concerns here related to tissue culture

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