Private channel session 260

28 messages over 1h 15m, 2020-07-30 – 2020-07-30.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

2020-07-30 14:31 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.122

You can't do those plots independently for each country. The increase of G in Australia simply relfects the increasing number of imports with this mutation.
2020-07-30 14:33 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.122

Nothing from Jeremy. I therefore suspect he won't email anyone.
2020-07-30 14:37 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.122

@Eddie Holmes Exactly - that is the whole problem with using counts of genomes. We have estimated the growth rate for 50-odd independent introductions into the UK. But it isn't a clean result.
2020-07-30 14:38 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.122

@Eddie Holmes I keep telling people this. Drives me crazy.
2020-07-30 14:54 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.123

@Eddie Holmes Yeah, Richard and I brought it up at the conference today, but I'm not quite sure they fully understood what the problem was... I kept saying "your analysis assumes growth from one introduction within the country only - the issue is that you have multiple introductions and you have many more G coming in later"... This can only be done on a tree - there's just no way around it.
2020-07-30 14:54 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.123

Hmmm, okay. Should I email Clare?
2020-07-30 14:56 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.123

I'm happy for you to email her.
2020-07-30 14:57 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.123

Alright - I think we should too, so let me email her now.
2020-07-30 14:57 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.123

With me cc'd.
2020-07-30 15:04 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.123

Done!
2020-07-30 15:06 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.123

Great email! The fight back has begun.
2020-07-30 15:11 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.123

Yeah, I think we all shaped that email pretty well! I definitely wouldn't be picking a fight with this bunch... Just saying. :boom::boxing_glove::man_in_business_suit_levitating:
2020-07-30 15:12 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.123

Our fight is a righteous one.
2020-07-30 15:12 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.123

I'm still pissed...
2020-07-30 15:18 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.123

So am I. Frothing at the mouth.
2020-07-30 15:46 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.123

SLACK_000338 Agreed - let's see what the response from Clare is (good thing I finished a couple more reviews for her at the last minute) - then discuss the counter-punch.
2020-07-30 15:46 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.124

> And, to borrow a phrase [from DT], "it's a pretty ugly situation that I (obviously) think should be exposed."
2020-07-30 15:46 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.124

Totally.
2020-07-30 15:46 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.124

So fed up with this shit. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-07-31 at 10.37.51 am.png]
2020-07-30 15:46 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.124

But at least Scott wasn't anonymous.
2020-07-30 15:46 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.124

Haha - why do they even take the time to write this shit? I just don't get it...
2020-07-30 15:46 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.124

To TM " that _ are less insignificant than everyone else thinks they are. Perhaps I should link-up Scott with
2020-07-30 15:46 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.124

Hah, worth a try
2020-07-30 15:46 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.124

Poor Alina :wink:
2020-07-30 15:46 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.124

I know. How bloody stupid to think that the HKU people did all the sequencing for RMYNO2 (RmYNO1) are were just acknowledged. Makes you wonder what else she has wrong. She's so far down rabbit hole that she's having trouble breathing.
2020-07-30 15:46 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.124

I was in a bad mood after Scott's email.
2020-07-30 15:46 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.124

Yeah, she's gone off her rocker by now - it's kinda sad as I still liked her first preprint and I like the fact that somebody keeps digging. But by now it's just stupid stuff.
2020-07-30 15:46 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.124

It is sad. She's clearly smart. I was trying not to be overly harsh, but you can't go around naming people like that. For her own good.