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MS. SALAZAR: But the Federal Government was aware, by
export. I mean, it's not like they were unaware that this
was being shipped. You had to fill out export control
documents.
DR. BARIC: I think that's correct, yes.
MS. SALAZAR: Through like the Commerce Department.
DR. BARIC: I do not know the details.
MR. LAMBETH: Yes.
DR. BARIC: Thank you.
MS. SALAZAR: So, I mean, I've seen comments where
people seemed shocked that the mice ended up there. From
your standpoint, is that valid?
DR. BARIC: No.
MS. SALAZAR: Okay. Can you elaborate?
DR. BARIC: Well again, the whole purpose of open
science is that reproducibility is key. And so if you
publish an important paper, people oftentimes ask you for
those reagents to either do extensive additional studies or
to actually repeat the studies. And so reproducibility is
key, and to do that, that's why the NIH wants you to share
reagents with people that ask for things.
MS. SALAZAR: But the NIH was also concerned when they
later learned that potentially these mice were being sold
or -- I mean, was that not a concern later on, in 2020?
DR. BARIC: I don't know if NIH was concerned. I know
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