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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.42 · baric_ti:utt:00288

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Christina Salazar

So, I mean, I've seen comments where people seemed shocked that the mice ended up there. From your standpoint, is that valid?

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2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Through like the Commerce Department.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I do not know the details.
2026-04-10 09:00 David T. Lambeth III open

Yes.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Thank you.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar

So, I mean, I've seen comments where people seemed shocked that the mice ended up there. From your standpoint, is that valid?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

No.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Okay. Can you elaborate?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Well again, the whole purpose of open science is that reproducibility is key. And so if you publish an important paper, people oftentimes ask you for those reagents to either do extensive additional studies or to actually repeat the studies. And so reproducibility is key, and to do that, that's why the NIH wants you to share reagents with people that ask for things.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

But the NIH was also concerned when they later learned that potentially these mice were being sold or -- I mean, was that not a concern later on, in 2020?