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Date
2022-01-14 14:15
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes
speaker
Andrew Rambaut
Topics
Awards, honoraria and recognitionEcoHealth Alliance funding and grantsWuhan Institute of Virology collaboration

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Reply: > Andrew - thanks. I should have been more specific: what I mean is that both Fauci and Collins were aware that NIH funds had been subawarded to the WIV in the past for certain types of research.> But you make a good point. It was not them specifically.So I will leave it there.

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I should have been more specific: what I mean is that both Fauci and Collins were aware that NIH funds had been subawarded to the WIV in the past for certain types of research.> But you make a good point. own voice, substantive speaker_own acknowledges

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  1. 2022-01-14 14:06 Edward C. Holmes open
    We'll never ever control what the GOP thinks
  2. 2022-01-14 14:08 Kristian G. Andersen open
    No, we can't control what the GOP thinks - however, once they take the house, Daszak, Bob, myself, and others willbe subpoenaed because they clearly want all this information.
  3. 2022-01-14 14:09 Andrew Rambaut open
    My feeling is that this is basically just an attack on Fauci (to a lesser extent, Collins). Once they have gone as far asthey want with that they will move on. I don't really think the GOP cares about what really happened.
  4. 2022-01-14 14:10 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Correct - but they use us as a way to get at Fauci. "See how all these scientists are lying", "Covering up with/for Fauci", etc, etc. That's where the documents come in - because they'll do _exactly_ what they just did with Bob's emails - take it completely out of context to create a narrative. The same will happen with those two drafts.
  5. 2022-01-14 14:15 Andrew Rambaut
    Reply: > Andrew - thanks. I should have been more specific: what I mean is that both Fauci and Collins were aware that NIH funds had been subawarded to the WIV in the past for certain types of research.> But you make a good point. It was not them specifically.So I will leave it there.
  6. 2022-01-14 14:19 Kristian G. Andersen open
    How the fuck are you supposed to know that...? She might want to ask them instead... I have no way of knowing, but I highly doubt they knew - plus, it was never brought up. Not on the call, not in emails with us.
  7. 2022-01-14 14:21 Kristian G. Andersen open
    It's sad to see the self destruction brought on by conspiracy theories - literally 99% of news on COVID-19 is either conspiracy theory or articles trying to counter conspiracy theories.
  8. 2022-01-14 14:38 Edward C. Holmes open
    And we won't change that. The key email is the one from Ron I think. No way he'll agree to release that.
  9. 2022-01-14 14:43 Kristian G. Andersen open
    They have that email in full too - but obviously they only released the part where he talked about "conspiracy theories" because the rest of the email very much goes against their narrative. I _do_ hope Ron will release "Ron'snotes" at some point.

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