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Slack / Private Message Drop, pp.1062-1063 [SLACK_001276] · slack_pm:msg:11093

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Date
2022-01-14 14:06
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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We'll never ever control what the GOP thinks

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  1. 2022-01-14 14:01 Kristian G. Andersen open
    And just to be clear - when/if Bob and I are subpoenaed they may ask to see all correspondence (emails) relevant tothe paper and we would have no choice but to comply. Yes, we (especially I, since I'm not a citizen) could plead the5th, but that would be extremely unwise and my institution would very likely not support that - plus, that'd likely turn into a lawsuit, in which case everything would have to be handed over anyway. Let's hope it won't get to that! (I'm 95% certain we'll be subpoenaed, but I don't think they'll ask for all our correspondence - unless it ends up in a lawsuit, but that makes absolutely no sense since we're talking about writingg'damn scientific papers! But this is America today...)
  2. 2022-01-14 14:04 Edward C. Holmes open
    These are drafts of a scientific paper. They are not an official statement nor an order telling what people should believe. Let's put this in perspective.
  3. 2022-01-14 14:05 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Agreed - I'm not the one that needs convincing, but the entire GOP (who'll soon have the House) sees this very differently.
  4. 2022-01-14 14:05 Edward C. Holmes open
    A paper the conclusions of which I still agree.
  5. 2022-01-14 14:06 Edward C. Holmes
    We'll never ever control what the GOP thinks
  6. 2022-01-14 14:08 Kristian G. Andersen open
    No, we can't control what the GOP thinks - however, once they take the house, Daszak, Bob, myself, and others willbe subpoenaed because they clearly want all this information.
  7. 2022-01-14 14:09 Andrew Rambaut open
    My feeling is that this is basically just an attack on Fauci (to a lesser extent, Collins). Once they have gone as far asthey want with that they will move on. I don't really think the GOP cares about what really happened.
  8. 2022-01-14 14:10 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Correct - but they use us as a way to get at Fauci. "See how all these scientists are lying", "Covering up with/for Fauci", etc, etc. That's where the documents come in - because they'll do _exactly_ what they just did with Bob's emails - take it completely out of context to create a narrative. The same will happen with those two drafts.
  9. 2022-01-14 14:15 Andrew Rambaut open
    Reply: > Andrew - thanks. I should have been more specific: what I mean is that both Fauci and Collins were aware that NIH funds had been subawarded to the WIV in the past for certain types of research.> But you make a good point. It was not them specifically.So I will leave it there.

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