A single line often inverts meaning once you see what it
answers, so neighbouring messages are always shown.
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Correct - but they use us as a way to get at Fauci. "See how all these scientists are lying", "Covering up with/for Fauci", etc, etc. That's where the documents come in - because they'll do _exactly_ what they just did with Bob's emails - take it completely out of context to create a narrative. The same will happen with those two drafts.
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Reply: > Andrew - thanks. I should have been more specific: what I mean is that both Fauci and Collins were aware that NIH funds had been subawarded to the WIV in the past for certain types of research.> But you make a good point. It was not them specifically.So I will leave it there.
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How the fuck are you supposed to know that...? She might want to ask them instead... I have no way of knowing, but I highly doubt they knew - plus, it was never brought up. Not on the call, not in emails with us.
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It's sad to see the self destruction brought on by conspiracy theories - literally 99% of news on COVID-19 is either conspiracy theory or articles trying to counter conspiracy theories.
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2022-01-14 14:38
Edward C. Holmes
And we won't change that. The key email is the one from Ron I think. No way he'll agree to release that.
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They have that email in full too - but obviously they only released the part where he talked about "conspiracy theories" because the rest of the email very much goes against their narrative. I _do_ hope Ron will release "Ron'snotes" at some point.
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I think we get all the emails ready but hold-off doing anything until it becomes critical. To me, this is the nuclearoption and it has serious downstream consequences (because it gives precedent for ALL other emails to bereleased) so I really don't want to do it. And by critical I don't mean DRASTIC or USRTK. They are small fry and easy to counter, and whatever we release they would pick-and-choose what they want. I honestly couldn't give afuck about DRASTIC. I don't think drafts of the paper are the issue. It's what we were told in the teleconference.
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I don't think we should ever release the emails, unless we're forced to via legal proceedings (in this case, eitherlawsuits or subpoenas).The drafts are different - they show the linear logic of how we came to our conclusions after the call and why there's absolutely nothing to hide here. I get the sense that they're mostly after those at the moment, but we'll see.I agree that we should do _nothing_ right now, but let's set up a Zoom in a couple of weeks.
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I wouldn't release the drafts until it is absolutely necessary. I'm absolutely certain this will lead to a series ofunintended consequences.