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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.824 [SLACK_001038] · slack_pm:msg:08596

Date: 2021-05-17 08:47
Type: chat message · slack
mentioned: Edward C. Holmes
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

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Don McNeill https://donaldgmcneiljr1954.medium.com/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-lab-leak-theory-f4f88446b04d O found this bit most interesting @Eddie Holmes "Of those swabs, about six percent were positive for the virus, according to Xinhua, China's state news agency. Most came from the western end, where the wildlife was sold. And most, Dr. Shi said, were from spots near or below floor level -- the handles of roll down steel shutters and the drains over the floor gutters.Finding virus in six percent of surface samples was more than might be expected even in a hospital during fluseason, Trevor Bedford, an evolutionary geneticist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center in Seattle who does flu studies told me last year. And the most logical explanation for finding that much virus on the floor and in the drains, he speculated, was notcoughing humans. It was the blood of a butchered animal being sloshed around as the market was hosed out."

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2021-05-17 07:51 Andrew Rambaut open

I couldn't move Bill's reply on its own. I also just want to have a quick look over. I may just remove the replies, moveit back and then lock it.
2021-05-17 08:02 Robert F. Garry open

I'm fine either way - long game. That google doc of points and counterpoints is pretty awesome and needs to see the light of day.
2021-05-17 08:02 Andrew Rambaut open

OK it is back up - but I have explained to Bill and suggested he goes for an eLetter
2021-05-17 08:04 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, Google doc is coming together - A LOT of key points in there. Need to figure out how we structure this best -I'm thinking maybe we could get Stephen's help with that...
2021-05-17 08:47 Robert F. Garry

Don McNeill https://donaldgmcneiljr1954.medium.com/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-lab-leak-theory-f4f88446b04d O found this bit most interesting @Eddie Holmes "Of those swabs, about six percent were positive for the virus, according to Xinhua, China's state news agency. Most came from the western end, where the wildlife was sold. And most, Dr. Shi said, were from spots near or below floor level -- the handles of roll down steel shutters and the drains over the floor gutters.Finding virus in six percent of surface samples was more than might be expected even in a hospital during fluseason, Trevor Bedford, an evolutionary geneticist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center in Seattle who does flu studies told me last year. And the most logical explanation for finding that much virus on the floor and in the drains, he speculated, was notcoughing humans. It was the blood of a butchered animal being sloshed around as the market was hosed out."
2021-05-17 08:48 Robert F. Garry open

It's not clear to me that DM really loves the Lab Leak theory...

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