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Slack / Private Message Drop, pp.796-797 [SLACK_001010] · slack_pm:msg:08276

Page text: p.796, p.797 · original PDF

Date
2021-05-13 13:11
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry
Topics
Natural origin / zoonotic spilloverWuhan Institute of Virology collaborationBiosafety and biosecurityIntelligence community assessmentsLab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

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https://elpais.com/ciencia/2021-05-13/un-grupo-de-destacados-cientificos-pide-una-autentica-investigacion-del-origen-de-la-pandemia.html "Epidemiologist Ian Lipkin , a world authority on emerging pathogens, was another of five experts who in March 2020 pointed to a natural origin of the coronavirus as the most likely hypothesis. His speech now sounds more skeptical. "We may never know the origin of SARS-CoV-2. I am concerned that scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology did not take adequate precautions when cultivating bat viruses, "Lipkin explains to ELPAÍS. The epidemiologist, from Columbia University (USA), cites research with dangerous viruses carried out inWuhan before the pandemic in laboratories with a medium level of biosafety." I might have said something too.

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https://elpais.com/ciencia/2021-05-13/un-grupo-de-destacados-cientificos-pide-una-autentica-investigacion-del-origen-de-la-pandemia.html "Epidemiologist Ian Lipkin , a world authority on emerging pathogens, was another of five experts who in March 2020 pointed to a natural origin of the coronavirus as the most likely hypothesis. needs context uncertain explicit hedge asserts

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  1. 2021-05-13 13:09 Robert F. Garry open
    Letter could be @Andrew Rambaut "lab escape idea is not a scientific hypothesis - it is an allegation. It can't beinvestigated by scientific methods because were it true it would also imply a cover-up which by definition is to avoiddiscovery." It could also call for support of the WHO process, recognition that intermediate hosts or reservoirs for many viruses have not been determined, respect for the scientific process and a call for more virus-hunting not less.
  2. 2021-05-13 13:09 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Lipkin?
  3. 2021-05-13 13:09 Robert F. Garry open
    Yes
  4. 2021-05-13 13:10 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Is he quoted somewhere?
  5. 2021-05-13 13:11 Robert F. Garry
    https://elpais.com/ciencia/2021-05-13/un-grupo-de-destacados-cientificos-pide-una-autentica-investigacion-del-origen-de-la-pandemia.html "Epidemiologist Ian Lipkin , a world authority on emerging pathogens, was another of five experts who in March 2020 pointed to a natural origin of the coronavirus as the most likely hypothesis. His speech now sounds more skeptical. "We may never know the origin of SARS-CoV-2. I am concerned that scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology did not take adequate precautions when cultivating bat viruses, "Lipkin explains to ELPAÍS. The epidemiologist, from Columbia University (USA), cites research with dangerous viruses carried out inWuhan before the pandemic in laboratories with a medium level of biosafety." I might have said something too.
  6. 2021-05-13 13:19 Robert F. Garry open
    To think that I sent him one of the posters...
  7. 2021-05-13 13:19 Andrew Rambaut open
    I have started a document - mainly to rant... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lPzBuXW0BY0okNljUBjmOSzDvwMsiW_UGMHYcyCWD4E/edit
  8. 2021-05-13 13:28 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Great! I'll try to draft something for a reply to Relman too - thanks Bob for the stuff above.
  9. 2021-05-13 13:29 Edward C. Holmes open
    Never has the name Butt Lesion been so appropriate.

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