Slack / Private Message Drop — page 797

https://elpais.com/ciencia/2021-05-13/un-grupo-de-destacados-cientificos-pide-una-autentica-investigacion-del-orig en-de-la-pandemia.html "Epidemiologist Ian Lipkin , a world authority on emerging pathogens, was another of five experts who in March 2020 pointed to a natural origin of the coronavirus as the most likely hypothesis. His speech now sounds more skeptical. "We may never know the origin of SARS-CoV-2. I am concerned that scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology did not take adequate precautions when cultivating bat viruses, "Lipkin explains to EL PAÍS. The epidemiologist, from Columbia University (USA), cites research with dangerous viruses carried out in Wuhan before the pandemic in laboratories with a medium level of biosafety." I might have said something too. [2021-05-13 13:19:02] [Robert Garry] To think that I sent him one of the posters... [2021-05-13 13:19:06] [Andrew Rambaut] I have started a document - mainly to rant... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lPzBuXW0BY0okNljUBjmOSzDvwMsiW_UGMHYcyCWD4E/edit [2021-05-13 13:28:55] [Kristian Andersen] Great! I'll try to draft something for a reply to Relman too - thanks Bob for the stuff above. [2021-05-13 13:29:19] [Eddie Holmes] Never has the name Butt Lesion been so appropriate. [2021-05-13 13:34:09] [Andrew Rambaut] I am now glad we got him on the origins paper - makes him look like a swithering idiot. [2021-05-13 14:10:36] [Andrew Rambaut] Currently dealing with the shit show that is B.1.617.2 (it is always the lineages with 1s and 7s in it). Might be a bit preoccupied for a bit. [2021-05-13 14:10:53] [Kristian Andersen] Yeah, I mean [shared file(s): E1P6mJmWQAEg1sz.png] [2021-05-13 14:11:12] [Andrew Rambaut] Yeah - but as always it isn't as simple as that. [2021-05-13 14:11:16] [Kristian Andersen] Please tell me something is TOTALLY wrong with this. (I saw the fantastic discussion a few days ago) [2021-05-13 14:11:37] [Andrew Rambaut] The india data is hugely difficult to interpret at the morent [2021-05-13 14:11:37] [Kristian Andersen] Nope, definitely not as simple as that - and clearly there's a bias here. However... [2021-05-13 14:11:59] [Kristian Andersen]