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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.759 [SLACK_000973] · slack_pm:msg:07950

Date: 2021-05-07 06:22
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration WHO and international investigation Gain-of-function research Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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A year and a half after a pandemic crippled Countries an killed more than 3 million people, more and more evidence the Chinese are blocking data of experiments called Gain of Function in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Was Covid19 an experiment, that leaked out of the lab that was routinely engaged in strengthening Corona Virus'?And experts say the denials by the Chinese are becoming increasingly unbelievable.On Back Story Host Dana Lewis talks to Science writer *Nicholas Wade,* who has written a long essay arguing that the "lab leak" hypothesis is more plausible than the "natural origin" theory. And, Gilles Demaneuf who has signed a letter from24 scientists from around the world has demanding a new investigation into the origins of covid and specifically demanding the WHO look into the lab in Wuhan. Demaneuf isa data analyst from DRASTIC, an international team of scientists and analysts attempting to fill in the gaps onCovid's origins.

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A year and a half after a pandemic crippled Countries an killed more than 3 million people, more and more evidence the Chinese are blocking data of experiments called Gain of Function in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
Was Covid19 an experiment, that leaked out of the lab that was routinely engaged in strengthening Corona Virus'?And experts say the denials by the Chinese are becoming increasingly unbelievable.On Back Story Host Dana Lewis talks to Science writer Nicholas Wade, who has written a long essay arguing that the "lab leak" hypothesis is more plausible than the "natural origin" theory.	quoted / not their view	quoted_external sentence carries quotation marks	asserts

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Was Covid19 an experiment, that leaked out of the lab that was routinely engaged in strengthening Corona Virus'?And experts say the denials by the Chinese are becoming increasingly unbelievable.On Back Story Host Dana Lewis talks to Science writer *Nicholas Wade,* who has written a long essay arguing that the "lab leak" hypothesis is more plausible than the "natural origin" theory.

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2021-05-07 05:44 Robert F. Garry open

https://scitechdaily.com/tracing-covid-back-to-origin-many-variant-strains-were-alrea[...]dy-present-before-the-first-known-cases-identified-in-china/
2021-05-07 05:46 Robert F. Garry open

I'm not convinced.
2021-05-07 06:21 Robert F. Garry open

Here is Wade's quote on the FCS. "Viruses have all kinds of clever tricks, so why does the furin cleavage site stand out? Because of all known SARS-related beta-coronaviruses, only SARS2 possesses a furin cleavage site. All the other viruses have their S2 unit cleaved at a different site and by a different mechanism." It's of course a "clever trick," and misleading at best. Other betacoronaviruses (MERS, HKU5, HKU1, OC43, HKU24https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1873506120304165;https://virological.org/t/naturally-occurring-indels-in-multiple-coronavirus-spikes/560) and a plethora of other viruses (flu, HIV, parmyxoviruses to name just a few) use FCS in the same way as SC2.
2021-05-07 06:21 Robert F. Garry open

https://www.buzzsprout.com/1016881/8471236
2021-05-07 06:22 Robert F. Garry

A year and a half after a pandemic crippled Countries an killed more than 3 million people, more and more evidence the Chinese are blocking data of experiments called Gain of Function in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Was Covid19 an experiment, that leaked out of the lab that was routinely engaged in strengthening Corona Virus'?And experts say the denials by the Chinese are becoming increasingly unbelievable.On Back Story Host Dana Lewis talks to Science writer *Nicholas Wade,* who has written a long essay arguing that the "lab leak" hypothesis is more plausible than the "natural origin" theory. And, Gilles Demaneuf who has signed a letter from24 scientists from around the world has demanding a new investigation into the origins of covid and specifically demanding the WHO look into the lab in Wuhan. Demaneuf isa data analyst from DRASTIC, an international team of scientists and analysts attempting to fill in the gaps onCovid's origins.
2021-05-07 06:29 Robert F. Garry open

Also when Wade added the Baltimore quote he deleted this tidbit - apparently tipped off how stupid it was by Alina. [shared file(s): image.png]
2021-05-07 06:56 Kristian G. Andersen open

I'm SO glad he included that quote from Baltimore because it's a _specific_ statement about why he is convinced itcame from the lab. The rest of the lot never get to specifics, but Baltimore did. And of course, we can look at actual data to completely take down that argument. No, the 2020 election wasn't stolen.

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