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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.641 [SLACK_000855] · slack_pm:msg:06717

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Date
2021-03-26 15:45
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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Yes, my photo from the market.

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  1. 2021-03-26 14:41 Kristian G. Andersen open
    @Andrew Rambaut - take a look at this alignment, comparing the Tanzania variant to the very early lineages, including the Malaysia one and WA1. This one appears to be closer to RaTG13, plus a bunch of private mutations (separately, I aligned to various B lineages, but didn't do this in a structured way). Here's what I can gather so far on the mutations that are shared. Ancestral (RaTG13), missing in Tanzania variant 18,060 Ancestral, private in Tanzania variant 190; 15,279; (23,012); 23,683 Ancestral, shared 8,782; (28,144) [shared file(s): tanzania_variant_snps.xlsx, tanzania_variant.geneious]
  2. 2021-03-26 15:27 Edward C. Holmes open
    I think these are raccoon dogs...stacked in cages. [shared file(s): 20141029_152015.jpg]
  3. 2021-03-26 15:39 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yours?
  4. 2021-03-26 15:42 Robert F. Garry open
    Sure looks like this animal to me! [shared file(s): image.png]
  5. 2021-03-26 15:45 Edward C. Holmes
    Yes, my photo from the market.
  6. 2021-03-26 15:46 Edward C. Holmes open
    So, not just one animal in a cage on the floor.
  7. 2021-03-26 15:49 Robert F. Garry open
    Here's the photo from your CNN report - unverified footage they say but sure looks like the same animal species. [shared file(s): image.png]
  8. 2021-03-26 15:51 Edward C. Holmes open
    So, they've been selling these animals there for years. An accident waiting to happen.
  9. 2021-03-26 15:59 Robert F. Garry open
    https://www.newsweek.com/humans-not-animals-likely-took-covid-virus-wuhan-contrary-chinas-claims-1578861 "The science is also bad because it isn't based on any on-the-ground evidence. There were many cases of COVID-19 in Wuhan before the market outbreak. In addition, the only live animals in the market seem to have been*snakes, turtles, and frogs*, none of whom are potential carriers, and they all tested negative. Peter Daszak himself has admitted that all of the carcasses examined tested negative for SARS-CoV-2. Yes, you read that right: the theory is based on the fact that they didn't find any infected animals in Wuhan.In any case, the director of China's Center for Disease Control dismissed the market theory last May, explaining that there was no connection and that the virus "existed long before" it was found in the market, which makes it *rather extraordinary that the WHO team chose to spend its limited time poking around the empty building (which had been closed, cleared and disinfected more than a year ago*)."

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