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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.628 [SLACK_000842] · slack_pm:msg:06579

Date: 2021-03-24 12:52
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry

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That was my exact thought. PD is arguably a public figure, which raises the bar quite a bit, but I'm with you. If you'rea public figure you have to prove actual malice. I'd testify that YES this is actual malice.

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2021-03-24 11:58 Robert F. Garry open

https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/an-interview-with-richard-ebright-anthony-fauci-francis-collins-systematically-thwarted/
2021-03-24 11:58 Robert F. Garry open

E-dim
2021-03-24 12:31 Edward C. Holmes open

Surely that's defamation?
2021-03-24 12:52 Kristian G. Andersen open

E-dim. Love it :wink:. As for the surface samples. I enquired, and _my own lab_ has actually managed to get full genomes from surface samples... Ct values typically quite strong in the mid-twenties.
2021-03-24 12:52 Robert F. Garry

That was my exact thought. PD is arguably a public figure, which raises the bar quite a bit, but I'm with you. If you'rea public figure you have to prove actual malice. I'd testify that YES this is actual malice.
2021-03-24 13:00 Robert F. Garry open

Sure it's doable -which brings us to where the samples were collected. First thing is the market that sold live animals. Just a weird coincidence that that lab leak pops up in the market? Second in the part of the market with the live animals. If the map is correct and the live animals were kept in the circle - then I'd say that's pretty good forensic evidence [even without the grate]. [shared file(s): image.png]
2021-03-24 13:17 Edward C. Holmes open

Remembering that these samples were taken some time after animals/humans were removed and my not have used optimal procedures (as the virus had not even be identified at this point). As I got those sequences from Weifeng let me see if I can get any more data from him.
2021-03-24 13:27 Robert F. Garry open

@Robert Garry A lot of what drives some of the DRASTICs is professional jealousy. Alina is still howling about verifying sequences etc. We got a lot of crap including the Filo15 guy who was going to investigate us because wewere not part of the established VHF club. Deep Throat didn't think that we were "rona" enuff to write PO1.
2021-03-24 13:42 Robert F. Garry open

https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/5/31/n12150755. THis is said to be a list of the environmental samples with theRT-PCR results - my chinese is not good enuff. [shared file(s): image.png]

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