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[Kristian Andersen] The patient room samples are the key ones - yeah, sewage - while pretty hard - can be done. I'll take a look this afternoon too - and ask Rob Knight who's been doing a lot of this stuff [2021-03-24 09:01:11] [Robert Garry] I'd like to know if that map of the Huanan market is reliable. Same map that PD is folding up? ASssuming the red are the positive stalls - Seems to line up with other reporting and what George G said initially. [2021-03-24 10:42:20] [Robert Garry] Wrong then - wrong now https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/landmark-study-virus-didnt-come-from-animals-in-wuhan -market/67Z6RTUKUQBUWMJJ74IJ3KIV7E/ [2021-03-24 11:58:39] [Robert Garry] https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/an-interview-with-richard-ebright-anthony-fauci-francis-colli ns-systematically-thwarted/ [2021-03-24 11:58:59] [Robert Garry] E-dim [2021-03-24 12:31:12] [Eddie Holmes] Surely that's defamation? [2021-03-24 12:52:08] [Kristian Andersen] E-dim. Love it :wink:. As for the surface samples. I enquired, and _my own lab_ has actually managed to get full genomes from surface samples... Ct values typically quite strong in the mid-twenties. [2021-03-24 12:52:32] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-03-24 12:52:32] That was my exact thought. PD is arguably a public figure, which raises the bar quite a bit, but I'm with you. If you're a public figure you have to prove actual malice. I'd testify that YES this is actual malice. [2021-03-24 13:00:11] [Robert Garry] Sure it's doable -which brings us to where the samples were collected. First thing is the market that sold live animals. Just a weird coincidence that that lab leak pops up in the market? Second in the part of the market with the live animals. If the map is correct and the live animals were kept in the circle - then I'd say that's pretty good forensic evidence [even without the grate]. [shared file(s): image.png] [2021-03-24 13:17:06] [Eddie Holmes] Remembering that these samples were taken some time after animals/humans were removed and my not have used optimal procedures (as the virus had not even be identified at this point). As I got those sequences from Weifeng let me see if I can get any more data from him. [2021-03-24 13:27:36] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-03-24 12:52:32]