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Date
2021-03-10 14:43
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes
speaker
Andrew Rambaut

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But recombination is no surprise to any one.

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  1. 2021-03-10 14:34 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Interesting recombinants - Andrew, do you have an automated way to detect these? We have seen some strange sequences lately.
  2. 2021-03-10 14:37 Andrew Rambaut open
    Was just looking for intermediates of B.1.1.7 - i.e., perhaps involved in the genesis events. Came across a bunch with some of the mutations but not all. The best ones were some that had multiple genomes so were clearlytransmitting - but the cool thing is they were sequenced in different labs so no lab funny business. Probably loads more but these are the low hanging fruit (about 5-6 sets)
  3. 2021-03-10 14:38 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Interesting - not really surprised. So Bette is right? As in, her analyses are right?
  4. 2021-03-10 14:42 Andrew Rambaut open
    Once again Bette got the right answer but is using flawed methods. Her 3-sequence recombination method can't distinguish recombination from convergence.
  5. 2021-03-10 14:43 Andrew Rambaut
    But recombination is no surprise to any one.
  6. 2021-03-10 14:56 Kristian G. Andersen open
    That's what I thought - and yeah, recombination is absolutely no surprise to anybody who's been following this virus.I can assure you Bette will make full use of being wrongly right, though....
  7. 2021-03-10 15:04 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Eddie - you're killing me... [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-10 at 14.36.44.png]
  8. 2021-03-10 15:09 Robert F. Garry open
    I remember a tale of "rightfully" wrong back in the Ebola days https://science.sciencemag.org/content/353/6300/658.1.full https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27516593/ Rambaut et al show that the erratum to our report on Ebola virus Makona evolution not only corrected sample dates modified byothers in GenBank but also corrected an additional transcriptional error in our original analysis. We agree with their observation that both factors contributed to our revised evolutionary rate estimate but continue to stand by our revised estimate and conclusions.
  9. 2021-03-10 15:12 Edward C. Holmes open
    Oh, I remember that one well!

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