Private channel session 1086
30 messages over 4h 12m, 2021-03-10 – 2021-03-10.
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The anticipation is killing me
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I just listened to the Chatham House webinar (after daisy-chaining zooms for most of the morning). The Parisitesdominated the questioning to the panel, but - good news imo the panel was ready. Judge for yourself thou. Daszak: annoying, but getting his rhetoric together. Koopmans: sharp and smooth - on point. Watson: pretty outclassed interms of communication skills, but a point or two. NO mention of Eddie's smoking raccoon dog pics, but none expected - I do think they are saving it for the release of the report.
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Did they say when the WHO report will be released? I'm sure they're saving the smoking canid and other details and which will really annoy the Parisites
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They said within two weeks.
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Making Parisites crazier - the gall of these ppl is amazing - clueless about viruses, but that won't stop them. [shared file(s): image.png]
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Ha, that's so stupid! :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
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:rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
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Eddie, can you please (please!) do us a favor and reply? Maybe point her to your book on Amazon on the topic for extra snark.
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On it.
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Would this be ok? "There's a process called 'recombination' that is commonly documented in nature that explains this pattern. Coronaviruses recombine frequently. This is covered in basic virology textbooks and my own monograph: https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Emergence-Viruses-Oxford-Ecology/dp/0199211132"
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Sufficiently snarky - so yes.
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Done. I didn't reply because I have blocked this nutter, but I pasted that tweet in.
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:fire:
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She is so spectacularly dumb. They just don't understand the basic biology of what they are talking about.
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I mean - they should have come across recombination by now if they actually cared about looking at this properly... But I guess that was never the purpose.
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Found some lovely examples of recombinants between B.1.1.7 and other lineages: [shared file(s): group4_snp_plot.png]
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Perhaps that is lab made too?
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You can't argue with people so dumb.
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Interesting recombinants - Andrew, do you have an automated way to detect these? We have seen some strange sequences lately.
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Was just looking for intermediates of B.1.1.7 - i.e., perhaps involved in the genesis events. Came across a bunch with some of the mutations but not all. The best ones were some that had multiple genomes so were clearlytransmitting - but the cool thing is they were sequenced in different labs so no lab funny business. Probably loads more but these are the low hanging fruit (about 5-6 sets)
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Interesting - not really surprised. So Bette is right? As in, her analyses are right?
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Once again Bette got the right answer but is using flawed methods. Her 3-sequence recombination method can't distinguish recombination from convergence.
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But recombination is no surprise to any one.
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That's what I thought - and yeah, recombination is absolutely no surprise to anybody who's been following this virus.I can assure you Bette will make full use of being wrongly right, though....
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Eddie - you're killing me... [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-10 at 14.36.44.png]
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I remember a tale of "rightfully" wrong back in the Ebola days https://science.sciencemag.org/content/353/6300/658.1.full https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27516593/ Rambaut et al show that the erratum to our report on Ebola virus Makona evolution not only corrected sample dates modified byothers in GenBank but also corrected an additional transcriptional error in our original analysis. We agree with their observation that both factors contributed to our revised evolutionary rate estimate but continue to stand by our revised estimate and conclusions.
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Oh, I remember that one well!
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https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.202000325
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taking Segreto and Deigin to task.
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Thank you Russia!