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Date
2021-02-23 14:19
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry
Topics
Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration

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The only lab release "theory" that is possible is if WIV or another lab actually had SC2 or a virus that is one or two steps away from SC2. If anyone had one of these 1. no reason to hide it before the outbreak.and 2. hiding SC2 orthe preSC2 would require the greatest conspiracy EVER. The corollary to this is that in this case SC2 or preSC2 is aNATURAL virus. The Baker/Alina/Relman crap about stopping work on bat/animal CoVs cause someone could have brought it back to the lab also needs vetted somewhere other than the WSJ.

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  1. 2021-02-23 13:58 Robert F. Garry open
    Isn't OoP Eric Lander?
  2. 2021-02-23 13:59 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Not a scam - legit email sender. Yeah, Lander is the scientific advisor.
  3. 2021-02-23 14:02 Edward C. Holmes open
    Tell him that Alina is a pain in the arse. I'm not all impressed with the behaviour of the Broad on this and a variety ofother matters.
  4. 2021-02-23 14:03 Robert F. Garry open
    She is evil and not helping the reputation of the Broad.
  5. 2021-02-23 14:19 Robert F. Garry
    The only lab release "theory" that is possible is if WIV or another lab actually had SC2 or a virus that is one or two steps away from SC2. If anyone had one of these 1. no reason to hide it before the outbreak.and 2. hiding SC2 orthe preSC2 would require the greatest conspiracy EVER. The corollary to this is that in this case SC2 or preSC2 is aNATURAL virus. The Baker/Alina/Relman crap about stopping work on bat/animal CoVs cause someone could have brought it back to the lab also needs vetted somewhere other than the WSJ.
  6. 2021-02-23 14:44 Robert F. Garry open
    The crap about stopping work on bat/animal CoVs is Alina's revenge for all the natural origins proponents that have called out her bullshit. Give the devil her due it's gotten some level of traction, esp with the whole GoF crowdweighing in.
  7. 2021-02-23 15:08 Edward C. Holmes open
    Totally agree Bob. Someone said that our latest post was just covered in This Week in Virology. I'm not sure if I have the strength to listen.

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