Private channel session 1019

11 messages over 1h 14m, 2021-02-23 – 2021-02-23.

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1. 2021-02-23 13:54 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.542
   Just got contacted by the Office of the President for an off-the-record conversation about COVID origins.... Hmmmm, I wonder if they have anything - or more likely not. This should be interesting. Bob, did you get a request too?
2. 2021-02-23 13:56 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.542
   Seriously? Not a scam? My guess is that they are just interested in general info. and why we think the way we do.
3. 2021-02-23 13:57 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.542
   No - but I'm sure you will set them on the right track.
4. 2021-02-23 13:58 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.542
   They would not be the people who would release the key info.
5. 2021-02-23 13:58 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.543
   Isn't OoP Eric Lander?
6. 2021-02-23 13:59 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.543
   Not a scam - legit email sender. Yeah, Lander is the scientific advisor.
7. 2021-02-23 14:02 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.543
   Tell him that Alina is a pain in the arse. I'm not all impressed with the behaviour of the Broad on this and a variety ofother matters.
8. 2021-02-23 14:03 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.543
   She is evil and not helping the reputation of the Broad.
9. 2021-02-23 14:19 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.543
   The only lab release "theory" that is possible is if WIV or another lab actually had SC2 or a virus that is one or two steps away from SC2. If anyone had one of these 1. no reason to hide it before the outbreak.and 2. hiding SC2 orthe preSC2 would require the greatest conspiracy EVER. The corollary to this is that in this case SC2 or preSC2 is aNATURAL virus. The Baker/Alina/Relman crap about stopping work on bat/animal CoVs cause someone could have brought it back to the lab also needs vetted somewhere other than the WSJ.
10. 2021-02-23 14:44 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.543
    The crap about stopping work on bat/animal CoVs is Alina's revenge for all the natural origins proponents that have called out her bullshit. Give the devil her due it's gotten some level of traction, esp with the whole GoF crowdweighing in.
11. 2021-02-23 15:08 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.543
    Totally agree Bob. Someone said that our latest post was just covered in This Week in Virology. I'm not sure if I have the strength to listen.