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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.385 [SLACK_000599] · slack_pm:msg:04011

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Date
2021-01-11 16:14
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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I assume there's no recombination involved?

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  1. 2021-01-11 15:59 Robert F. Garry open
    Yeah - it's all going to shit...
  2. 2021-01-11 16:01 Edward C. Holmes open
    I don't think we have any info from previous immunocompromised cases (noros, flu) for such large-scale convergent evolution. Indeed, while I can see immunocompromised cases leading to lots of mutations, lots of the SAME mutations appearing multiple times does smell of very strong and directed selection.
  3. 2021-01-11 16:09 Andrew Rambaut open
    Just don't know - so much other stuff presumably hitchiking - I just don't think that likely happens via a progressionof individual mutations with bottlenecking transmission.
  4. 2021-01-11 16:11 Andrew Rambaut open
    We are seeing all these mutations cropping up individually many times. But when they appear in combination now we also get 15 other mutations along side
  5. 2021-01-11 16:14 Edward C. Holmes
    I assume there's no recombination involved?
  6. 2021-01-11 16:17 Edward C. Holmes open
    Also, "immunocompromised" covers a huge range of contexts...
  7. 2021-01-11 16:18 Andrew Rambaut open
    Can't see anything obvious (recombination)
  8. 2021-01-11 16:18 Andrew Rambaut open
    But need to keep an eye on that.
  9. 2021-01-11 16:19 Andrew Rambaut open
    I have been careful not to say immunocompromised - only chronically infected

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