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Suggests is a dodgy vaccine trial NOT an escape.

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2020-11-18 20:57 Edward C. Holmes open

Somebody had some Twitter correspondence with Jon Cohen and presented all the evidence that 1977 H1N1 was a dodgy vaccine. There was a pretty convincing paper that Jon seemed to buy. I did. I'll see if I can find it.
2020-11-18 20:58 Edward C. Holmes open

Plus, that Nature Addendum makes all the miners story totally out-of-date.
2020-11-18 21:20 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, 1977 is definitely an escape - and likely linked to vaccine work. I thought in Russia though.
2020-11-18 21:35 Edward C. Holmes open

This is what I was thinking of: [shared file(s): mBio-2015-Rozo-e01013-15.full.pdf]
2020-11-18 21:36 Edward C. Holmes

Suggests is a dodgy vaccine trial NOT an escape.
2020-11-18 21:43 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yup, I read this one when we wrote our paper - it's good. And yes, likely vaccine work, although I'd argue that that's just one type of 'escape'. Never fully proven though, so given all the weirdness we see with Ebola, who knows.
2020-11-18 21:46 Edward C. Holmes open

Who knows indeed. Good, reasoned argument though.