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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.264 [SLACK_000478] · slack_pm:msg:02764

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Date
2020-11-18 20:58
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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Plus, that Nature Addendum makes all the miners story totally out-of-date.

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  1. 2020-11-18 20:51 Kristian G. Andersen open
    ... I missed that part. I thought it was the Russians - but hey, same thing, right? I can see Alina has gone full-onconspiracy with this too. Good stuff. It'll be hilarious looking back at these tweets in a couple of years.
  2. 2020-11-18 20:53 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Hah! We have Joel to thank for the China emergence of H1N1 :wink: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0011184
  3. 2020-11-18 20:53 Kristian G. Andersen open
    (I know he's been working on SARS-CoV-2 to look at origins - interested to see what he comes up with).
  4. 2020-11-18 20:57 Edward C. Holmes open
    Somebody had some Twitter correspondence with Jon Cohen and presented all the evidence that 1977 H1N1 was a dodgy vaccine. There was a pretty convincing paper that Jon seemed to buy. I did. I'll see if I can find it.
  5. 2020-11-18 20:58 Edward C. Holmes
    Plus, that Nature Addendum makes all the miners story totally out-of-date.
  6. 2020-11-18 21:20 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, 1977 is definitely an escape - and likely linked to vaccine work. I thought in Russia though.
  7. 2020-11-18 21:35 Edward C. Holmes open
    This is what I was thinking of: [shared file(s): mBio-2015-Rozo-e01013-15.full.pdf]
  8. 2020-11-18 21:36 Edward C. Holmes open
    Suggests is a dodgy vaccine trial NOT an escape.
  9. 2020-11-18 21:43 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yup, I read this one when we wrote our paper - it's good. And yes, likely vaccine work, although I'd argue that that's just one type of 'escape'. Never fully proven though, so given all the weirdness we see with Ebola, who knows.

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