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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.179 [SLACK_000393] · slack_pm:msg:01845

Date: 2020-09-17 14:38
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recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen

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Yeah, I totally agree Tommy's paper is very clear on this - the issue is that the other paper definitely isn't. But that doesn't take away the fact that Tommy's study is clean. Typical conspiracy way of dealing with inconvenient data.

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2020-09-17 14:10 Kristian G. Andersen open

"the Guangdong pangolin viruses have been sequenced multiple times by multiple groups. They have also been Sanger sequenced. Plus there are Pangolins from Guangxi that have been sequenced" Yup, I know this - hence I have no concerns about the data. Would still be nice to be able to say "yes, I looked at itdummy, and the data is perfectly fine" (as I just did with RaTG13). I'll grab the data and play around with it a bit.
2020-09-17 14:16 Edward C. Holmes open

The pangolin viruses from the Viruses paper were first assembled in that Virological post.
2020-09-17 14:21 Edward C. Holmes open

All reads from Tommy's paper are on the SRA. The Guangdong ones are P1L and P2S. P2S is from the scales and at a bit patchy. All explained in the paper.
2020-09-17 14:36 Edward C. Holmes open

What *really* pisses me off is that everything is explained very carefully in Tommy's paper - the provenance of the sequences, how they were sequenced and analysed - and ALL the data is publicly available on GISAID/SRA. Asclean as it gets - take a look. But fucking Alina has managed to sow doubt by linking it to those dodgy pangolin papers.
2020-09-17 14:38 Kristian G. Andersen

Yeah, I totally agree Tommy's paper is very clear on this - the issue is that the other paper definitely isn't. But that doesn't take away the fact that Tommy's study is clean. Typical conspiracy way of dealing with inconvenient data.
2020-09-17 14:39 Edward C. Holmes open

Agreed. So fucking annoying.
2020-09-17 14:39 Kristian G. Andersen open

The collective insanity is starting to get to me...
2020-09-17 14:44 Edward C. Holmes open

I hear you. Just as long as the journal editors keep sane. On that subject the following..."Are mouse and cat the missing link in the COVID-19 outbreaks in seafood markets?"...has just come up on bioRxiv. No real data ofcourse...
2020-09-17 15:03 Kristian G. Andersen open

I can guarantee you that mice played no role in this - the virus can't infect rodents.... Cats? Weeeeeelllll

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