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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.179 [SLACK_000393] · slack_pm:msg:01848

Date: 2020-09-17 14:44
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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I hear you. Just as long as the journal editors keep sane. On that subject the following..."Are mouse and cat the missing link in the COVID-19 outbreaks in seafood markets?"...has just come up on bioRxiv. No real data ofcourse...

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2020-09-17 14:36 Edward C. Holmes open

What *really* pisses me off is that everything is explained very carefully in Tommy's paper - the provenance of the sequences, how they were sequenced and analysed - and ALL the data is publicly available on GISAID/SRA. Asclean as it gets - take a look. But fucking Alina has managed to sow doubt by linking it to those dodgy pangolin papers.
2020-09-17 14:38 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, I totally agree Tommy's paper is very clear on this - the issue is that the other paper definitely isn't. But that doesn't take away the fact that Tommy's study is clean. Typical conspiracy way of dealing with inconvenient data.
2020-09-17 14:39 Edward C. Holmes open

Agreed. So fucking annoying.
2020-09-17 14:39 Kristian G. Andersen open

The collective insanity is starting to get to me...
2020-09-17 14:44 Edward C. Holmes

I hear you. Just as long as the journal editors keep sane. On that subject the following..."Are mouse and cat the missing link in the COVID-19 outbreaks in seafood markets?"...has just come up on bioRxiv. No real data ofcourse...
2020-09-17 15:03 Kristian G. Andersen open

I can guarantee you that mice played no role in this - the virus can't infect rodents.... Cats? Weeeeeelllll
2020-09-17 15:07 Edward C. Holmes open

Cats are indeed evil.
2020-09-17 15:13 Robert F. Garry open

Excellent gentlemen - The Inspector really should just do a complete mea culpa and get on with her career.
2020-09-17 15:21 Robert F. Garry open

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1817796#

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