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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.179 [SLACK_000393] · slack_pm:msg:01843

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Date
2020-09-17 14:21
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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All reads from Tommy's paper are on the SRA. The Guangdong ones are P1L and P2S. P2S is from the scales and at a bit patchy. All explained in the paper.

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  1. 2020-09-17 14:07 Edward C. Holmes open
    The pangolin viruses were Sanger sequenced here and this paper clearly shows that these animals are sick: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.22.164442v1
  2. 2020-09-17 14:08 Edward C. Holmes open
    Do not fall into the stupid narrative set by Alina Chan. The idea that these viruses are fake is insulting.
  3. 2020-09-17 14:10 Kristian G. Andersen open
    "the Guangdong pangolin viruses have been sequenced multiple times by multiple groups. They have also been Sanger sequenced. Plus there are Pangolins from Guangxi that have been sequenced" Yup, I know this - hence I have no concerns about the data. Would still be nice to be able to say "yes, I looked at itdummy, and the data is perfectly fine" (as I just did with RaTG13). I'll grab the data and play around with it a bit.
  4. 2020-09-17 14:16 Edward C. Holmes open
    The pangolin viruses from the Viruses paper were first assembled in that Virological post.
  5. 2020-09-17 14:21 Edward C. Holmes
    All reads from Tommy's paper are on the SRA. The Guangdong ones are P1L and P2S. P2S is from the scales and at a bit patchy. All explained in the paper.
  6. 2020-09-17 14:36 Edward C. Holmes open
    What *really* pisses me off is that everything is explained very carefully in Tommy's paper - the provenance of the sequences, how they were sequenced and analysed - and ALL the data is publicly available on GISAID/SRA. Asclean as it gets - take a look. But fucking Alina has managed to sow doubt by linking it to those dodgy pangolin papers.
  7. 2020-09-17 14:38 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, I totally agree Tommy's paper is very clear on this - the issue is that the other paper definitely isn't. But that doesn't take away the fact that Tommy's study is clean. Typical conspiracy way of dealing with inconvenient data.
  8. 2020-09-17 14:39 Edward C. Holmes open
    Agreed. So fucking annoying.
  9. 2020-09-17 14:39 Kristian G. Andersen open
    The collective insanity is starting to get to me...

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