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[2020-09-17 14:07:24] [Eddie Holmes] The pangolin viruses were Sanger sequenced here and this paper clearly shows that these animals are sick: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.22.164442v1 [2020-09-17 14:08:31] [Eddie Holmes] Do not fall into the stupid narrative set by Alina Chan. The idea that these viruses are fake is insulting. [2020-09-17 14:10:47] [Kristian Andersen] "the Guangdong pangolin viruses have been sequenced multiple times by multiple groups. They have also been Sanger sequenced. Plus there are Pangolins from Guangxi that have been sequenced" Yup, I know this - hence I have no concerns about the data. Would still be nice to be able to say "yes, I looked at it dummy, and the data is perfectly fine" (as I just did with RaTG13). I'll grab the data and play around with it a bit. [2020-09-17 14:16:18] [Eddie Holmes] The pangolin viruses from the Viruses paper were first assembled in that Virological post. [2020-09-17 14:21:30] [Eddie Holmes] All reads from Tommy's paper are on the SRA. The Guangdong ones are P1L and P2S. P2S is from the scales and at a bit patchy. All explained in the paper. [2020-09-17 14:36:45] [Eddie Holmes] What *really* pisses me off is that everything is explained very carefully in Tommy's paper - the provenance of the sequences, how they were sequenced and analysed - and ALL the data is publicly available on GISAID/SRA. As clean as it gets - take a look. But fucking Alina has managed to sow doubt by linking it to those dodgy pangolin papers. [2020-09-17 14:38:12] [Kristian Andersen] Yeah, I totally agree Tommy's paper is very clear on this - the issue is that the other paper definitely isn't. But that doesn't take away the fact that Tommy's study is clean. Typical conspiracy way of dealing with inconvenient data. [2020-09-17 14:39:10] [Eddie Holmes] Agreed. So fucking annoying. [2020-09-17 14:39:52] [Kristian Andersen] The collective insanity is starting to get to me... [2020-09-17 14:44:12] [Eddie Holmes] I hear you. Just as long as the journal editors keep sane. On that subject the following..."Are mouse and cat the missing link in the COVID-19 outbreaks in seafood markets?"...has just come up on bioRxiv. No real data of course... [2020-09-17 15:03:16] [Kristian Andersen] I can guarantee you that mice played no role in this - the virus can't infect rodents.... Cats? Weeeeeelllll