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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.29 · baric_ti:utt:00167

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Christina Salazar

So that paper was in 2015. It was NIHfunded research.

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2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

So they just didn't have them?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I don't know. They seemed surprised to me.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Surprised about --
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

They seemed uncertain, not surprised. "Uncertain" would be the better word, about the status of these documents, which surprised me.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar

So that paper was in 2015. It was NIHfunded research.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

If I were to guess, institutional memory, retired, and they didn't know where the documents were, would be my guess.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Is that frequent at NIH?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

It's frequent everywhere in the world. Institutional memory is key.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

I would expect, as a government entity that funds a lot of IT modernization efforts and systems for agencies, I'm a little shocked that they don't have a way to pull up taxpayer-funded applications.