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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.29 · baric_ti:utt:00165

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Christina Salazar
Surprised about --

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    So can you let us know what you all talked about and who was present?
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Well, Fauci was present for about 5 to 10 minutes max. He got called away for a phone call in a SCIF, and so he left pretty early in the meeting. There was some basic discussion about the new virus. Ultimately, they got to, I think, what they really wanted to talk about was gain-of-function related experiments, or I think it should be potential gain-of-function related experiments, that were associated with this 2015 and 2016 paper. I was a little surprised that they didn't seem to have the paperwork that was involved in my presentation on why I thought this might be more of a loss-of-function than a gain-of-function phenotype. And so then I think a day or so later I sent them all those documents. DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    So they just didn't have them?
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I don't know. They seemed surprised to me.
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar
    Surprised about --
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    They seemed uncertain, not surprised. "Uncertain" would be the better word, about the status of these documents, which surprised me.
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    So that paper was in 2015. It was NIHfunded research.
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    If I were to guess, institutional memory, retired, and they didn't know where the documents were, would be my guess.
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Is that frequent at NIH?

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